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« on: September 08, 2010, 05:20:56 PM »

My wife asked me that if our slot machine randomly picks which reels to stop and when, what difference is in the different % chips. I tried to BS my way thru the question, but it didnt work..... mostly cuz I dont know Smiley

Any input? Mine is the "stock" chip but I was offered an 85% one, I think. Does that mean the house gets 85% compared to 97%?

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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2010, 05:26:45 PM »

House get's 15% instead of 3%
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2010, 05:43:09 PM »

so, for house use.... my house....and using tokens, I am better off with the higher %? Goal is for people(my wife) to win more.
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2010, 05:51:06 PM »

Correct.  The player get's the high payout.  Your wife will like the 97% better then 85%.
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2010, 05:52:54 PM »

whew.... I wont have to spend more money Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2010, 05:54:38 PM »

The % isin a loooooooooong time of play.
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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2010, 06:02:06 PM »

Well, its cooling off now in AZ... so she will be in the garage playing more soon. Too hot out there now for her. I like to let her play a while, losing.... then grab a handful of tokens and "show her how to win". I am always surprised when it works and pisses her off. I will rattle up a few hundred credits then say "here ya go,, burn those off". She does.... hahahaha
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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2010, 06:09:39 PM »

At my house it's the other way. Every time my wife goes on a machine she hit's. We both loved the casino. We went to Atlantic City once a month. Then in 95 she became disabled and can't get to go. That's how I got involved in slot's for her to play @ home.
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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2010, 06:15:54 PM »

thats how I got this machine.... disabled older lady stuck at home, so they spend like $600 for this machine about 4 years back. It quit working and they called a local slot place and his estimate without looking at it was somewhere over $200.... so, I offered $200 to take it off their hands and I got it.... spent about $25 for parts and a few days bugging this website and we have a good machine.

My grandkids like it more than anyone here.... they see a cherry show up anywhere and hoot and hollar.
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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2010, 06:32:50 PM »

For most games (but not all) the difference between the lower and higher paying chips is found in the lower and mid-level payouts. Simply put, the higher paying chips have slightly more lower and mid-level payouts. The top prize odds usually don't change.

With IGT reel games, I've found that in many cases the higher paying chips often have a few more of the lower payouts (like mixed bars), and they shift some of the lower mid-level payouts (like single and even double bars) to the upper mid-level payouts (like double and triple bars). This is by no means a hard and fast rule.

There are some games that have different odds for the top prizes as well. Oddly, in some cases, it's the lower paying chip that has better odds of hitting the top prize, but at the expense of more smaller prizes.

Changing the payouts on a game design is a subtle massage, not a rip and gut affair. For standard three-reel slots, it only takes a few minor changes to make all the difference in the math.

Hope that helps.

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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2010, 06:48:04 PM »

For most games (but not all) the difference between the lower and higher paying chips is found in the lower and mid-level payouts. Simply put, the higher paying chips have slightly more lower and mid-level payouts. The top prize odds usually don't change.

With IGT reel games, I've found that in many cases the higher paying chips often have a few more of the lower payouts (like mixed bars), and they shift some of the lower mid-level payouts (like single and even double bars) to the upper mid-level payouts (like double and triple bars). This is by no means a hard and fast rule.

There are some games that have different odds for the top prizes as well. Oddly, in some cases, it's the lower paying chip that has better odds of hitting the top prize, but at the expense of more smaller prizes.

Changing the payouts on a game design is a subtle massage, not a rip and gut affair. For standard three-reel slots, it only takes a few minor changes to make all the difference in the math.

Hope that helps.

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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2010, 11:02:25 PM »

I'm massaging my machine as we speak.... rotflmao
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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2010, 11:22:21 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2010, 11:22:29 PM »

I'm massaging my machine as we speak.... rotflmao

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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2010, 11:57:40 PM »

hahaha
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« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2010, 12:51:27 AM »

I think the return on this thread is dropping fast. reels hit 7's
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« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2010, 01:49:37 AM »

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« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2010, 08:06:30 AM »

I had a feeling there was a high level of confidence that I was instigating something kind of punny!
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« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2010, 12:05:44 PM »

The key word was...."massage"
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« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2010, 01:07:31 PM »

I had a feeling there was a high level of confidence that I was instigating something kind of punny!
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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2010, 02:43:58 PM »

That's okay stat....the main thing is the question was answered and the questioner was happy...
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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2010, 03:24:06 PM »

yep, no worries here.... I got the info I needed, the rest just makes the day better.
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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2010, 03:25:12 PM »

yep, no worries here.... I got the info I needed, the rest just makes the day better.

That's okay stat....the main thing is the question was answered and the questioner was happy...
after that...the threads usually go to hell... rotflmao
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« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2010, 06:44:33 PM »

The key word was...."massage"
That's all it takes to set off wildfires here...  Duh! rotflmao

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