Coin to Token, Nickel to Quarter, etc.

[Yoeddy1]

Hey guys,

My slot is a quarter quarter in/quarter out machine.  My poker machine is nickel in/nickel out.  If I want to convert my poker machine over to quarter, which parts do I need to track down?

My assumptions:
25 cent coin head
New hopper for quarters???
Coin comparitor???

Also, let's say that they are both quarter machines, and I want to eventually use tokens.  What's involved with going to tokens?  Throw a token in the comparitor and I'm good to go?

Thanks,
Jason

[jay]

The coin head is a necessary change between large and small denominations. IE $5.00/$1.00 token vs Small coin.
If your nickle fits in your quarter slot and vice versa its not really a necessary change.
In a casino you do want to go to the smaller coin head to stop your doof customer from plugging in a quarter into your nickle platform but at home its optional (depending on inlaws lol).

The hopper doesn't need to be changed but often the wheel needs to be changed. The nickle wheel holds the coin higher (for the optics) than say a quarter wheel.

If you are using quarter like tokens (ie .944 pachislo tokens) then you don't need to make any mods when going from quaters to tokens. If however you are using slant machines then you do need to make adjustments for your coin elevators as these slight differences will jam the elevator. I don't have any slants but have heard that the 50c riser piece lines up a lot nicer to other foreign coins than quarters do.

From an optics point of view there are different spacers available to ensure the coins are registered. I think pennys/dimes are the real challenge as they are smaller and narrower. Nickles I think they need to widen. Others may have more experience here than I.

[slotsteve]

 

[Yoeddy1]

It sounds like the conversion is pretty easy from nickle to quarter.  Any recommendations on .944 sized tokens?  Brand, dealer, etc?  I've heard some tokens are good, and some not so much.

Thanks,
Jason

[tacman]

Jason, the problem with tokens is that there are issues with mix and match. If you buy enough of one type token for all your machines you shouldn't have any problems. I have about four different styles in the same size but they must have different metal content because if they get mixed up, the other three styles just fall back into the tray. Putting one type in each machine works, but guests don't know any better and soon they are mixed up again.

 Dan (tacman)

[slotsteve]

I have many case of tokens  but as dan said the are many drifferent ones mixed in so when we sell a igt on tokens we have to hand pick 400 of same one , on jap slots they take anyone so we give our odds and ends with them, we bought new tokens once from a co  in ky @8 cents each but they TRYED rip us off on shipping, we knew the ups guy who told us the real cost of the shipping 1/3 of what they were trying to charge, I called and told them we were  not taking the tokens do to the high shipping after a few mins they said  just pay $100 shipping instead of the $300

[Buzz]

My last trip to Bullhead I took Joey's kids to the kids arcade at the Riverside Casino Laughlin (rode the boat across the river ) I took some of the tokens from Joey's shop, I wasn't supprised when then didn't work. but I had to give it a try.  I should add that's where I get my coin cups. Kids have a good time and I leave with about 10 cups stuck under my arm.

[Yoeddy1]

Anyone tried these?  Seem a little spendy.  Didn't see a .944 size...which one would be quarter sized?

http://www.happcontrols.com/cc/42073100.htm

[jay]

See this thread.....
http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=2520.0

I have also been working out of Mexico City as of late..... the Mexican Peso (which is probably more readily available) has some good coins that will work.
Exchange to the Peso is about 12:1

[Brianzz]

Bet they'd really stab you on the shipping on those

[tacman]

Actually .984 is the size for the Pachi's and what I use. Just a pinch bigger than a quarter and works flawlessly in .25 comparitors and hoppers.

 Dan (tacman)

[slotsteve]

We tryed 984,s in a slant top game maker and they jammed in  up tube alot on reg igt hopper they work great , Happs price is way to high 20 cents each   plus shipping, best bet find a arcade the gives you 30 tokens for 5 bucks stopin a few times and buy 20 bucks at a time if close to home  in a few trips you,ll have your tokens , we had a lot of them and sold a bunch way to cheap( 4 cents ) b4 we started making token games for nc

[daddy2yea]

Anyone tried these?  Seem a little spendy.  Didn't see a .944 size...which one would be quarter sized?

http://www.happcontrols.com/cc/42073100.htm

After shipping cost each token is going to cost .25   I don't get it. If a token is going to cost you a quarter why not just use a quarter?  Mike

[slotsteve]

people leave with your quarters  but not your tokens

[StatFreak]

Anyone tried these?  Seem a little spendy.  Didn't see a .944 size...which one would be quarter sized?

http://www.happcontrols.com/cc/42073100.htm

That's odd. No quarter size, and they state that the minimum order is 1000, but then put up prices for smaller quantities.    

[Brianzz]

We tryed 984,s in a slant top game maker and they jammed in  up tube alot on reg igt hopper they work great , Happs price is way to high 20 cents each   plus shipping, best bet find a arcade the gives you 30 tokens for 5 bucks stopin a few times and buy 20 bucks at a time if close to home  in a few trips you,ll have your tokens , we had a lot of them and sold a bunch way to cheap( 4 cents ) b4 we started making token games for nc

I got some quarter sized tokens from Ben at Fannini's and they worked great in a slant escalator, I forget how much I paid, wasn't much tho'

That's odd. No quarter size, and they state that the minimum order is 1000, but then put up prices for smaller quantities.    

I found that odd also, maybe that's for the people that want to order 1,001 tokens

[StatFreak]

That's odd. No quarter size, and they state that the minimum order is 1000, but then put up prices for smaller quantities.    

I found that odd also, maybe that's for the people that want to order 1,001 tokens

Ah, but the price quoted is for 1000+, not for lots of 1000 so by definition, any order placed would be sold at that price, regardless of quantity.


Your post reminds me of times I took trips to Reno with a friend of mine. He was a pony man, not a table player. He wouldn't play the table minimum at the BJ table but wanted to have some action while hanging out with me, so he'd place his $1 bets on top of my $25-$150 bets.

[Ron (r273)]

I have bought about 3000 of these double cherry tokens that I use in my S+ and S-2000s. Have had no problem
with them. The good thing they are new and one type. Shop around, sometimes these are sold by different dealers.
Just watch the shipping cost!

http://cgi.ebay.com/1000-New-Cherry-Pachislo-Casino-Slot-Machine-Tokens-Lot-/400153221508?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2afd9984

Ron (r273)

[StatFreak]

people leave with your quarters  but not your tokens

Actually, that depends on the quality of your friends. I kept over $2000 worth of quarters and $100 in nickels in my machines for years (starting with about $200 in my first machine in the early '90s), and when I decided to cash them all in a couple of years ago, I had lost a grand total of eight quarters and gained one nickel, and that included one move, and all of the times that my friends kids played the machines.

[jay]

I run mine off tokens, got mine reasonably cheap. I did have the problem where I have one series of coins that have a different metal content. I gave those to my brother when I gave him my Pachsilos. I do have about 10k tokens across 4 machines. I put 1200 in each hopper (hopper limit set to 1000) and roll the rest.

My rationalle initally for using the tokens is that it was easier to run my real slots off tokens than to convert the Pachislos to use quarters.

When I used to live in PA (a 1943 state) it also made good sense that this absolutely eliminated the possibibility of any neighborhood kid losing their lunch money and having their parents make a complaint. Now that I live in Canada this is not a concern but still makes good sense. Stat is kidless so the only kids who see his machines are the sons/daughters of his friends. Whereas having two kids who randomlly bring home friends - I never know who is going to be in the house.

[StatFreak]

...Stat is kidless so the only kids who see his machines are the sons/daughters of his friends. Whereas having two kids who randomlly bring home friends - I never know who is going to be in the house.

Good point.  
Of course, you could always put a lock on the game room door. If I had kids, I'm not sure I'd want them bringing their friends over to check out dad's slot machines without the permission of their friends' parents. It only takes one angry parent to cause trouble, tokens or not.

[jay]

My games room is all encompassing of the basement.... so weather its the 120" projection with the Playstation 3, pool table or slots its the family entertainment center.
I also have the 3 beer taps and a fully stocked bar.... so its not the slots I am really worried about....also  if the machine can stand 24/7 casino abuse who allows any one with a nickle to play,  it certainly can withstand a few kids. I just don't want anyone coming in and saying I am running a pay-4-play casino.

[StatFreak]

Well, that was basically my point. A parent might get bent out of shape after hearing that their kids were playing with slot machines, even if no money was involved. I agree that available liquor would be even worse, especially if they found out that no adults were around to supervise, and even if their child swore they didn't touch it.

I was never concerned about your slots being abused.

[Yoeddy1]

I have bought about 3000 of these double cherry tokens that I use in my S+ and S-2000s. Have had no problem
with them. The good thing they are new and one type. Shop around, sometimes these are sold by different dealers.
Just watch the shipping cost!

http://cgi.ebay.com/1000-New-Cherry-Pachislo-Casino-Slot-Machine-Tokens-Lot-/400153221508?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2afd9984

Ron (r273)

Ron, just ordered 1000 of these for about 55 bucks shipped.  I'll report back how they do.  If all is well, I may order another 1000 and call it good.

Jason

[Yoeddy1]

Ok...

Just got the tokens today.  Very nice quality.  One problem...the quarter sized backplate is just a little bit too small for the tokens to fall through, if slightly pushed they will fall through.  Took a dremmel bit and am filing one down.  Put a twenty dollar bill in and cashed out the tokens...everyone of them came out fine, so it's only a problem with the coin in.  They claim they are .094 size.

Ron, if you see this message, did you have to modify your coin head backplate to make these work?

Here's a question, can a .50 or 1.00 back plate be installed to my current quarter head or do the larger coins require a totally different head assembly?

Thanks,
Jason