VALUE? Ballly 742 Money Honey Jackpot Bell serial number 168, 110v White Sides

[SK8US]

I have a Bally 742 Money Honey Jackpot Bell serial number 168 and was wondering the value of this fine slot machine. It is all 110V with a dinger for a bell not a regular jackpot bell. The inside is spotless and the door does have a place to put coins in behind the belly glass. I was just seeing if I could get a rough value from the experts here on this near perfect classic slot machine. Thank you, Scott

[slotsteve]

east coast price maybe 500   west side who knows?

[SK8US]

Thanks for the East coast starting range. Here in the West Coast I sell 1088 dollar slots for $500 and lower denomination slots for over $600. This slot is a rare slot that I have not seen in the market anywhere but must be more prevalent there? Again it does not have a transformer as even the coin switch and all lights are 110V, it was a short run of these before the transformers were put into these slots. Again Thanks for your input and look forward to more.

[slotsteve]

somewhere there must be a transformer  coils run on 50 volts for handle release, as far as rare i have seem those games before  dose it drop a  token  for jackpot?

[SK8US]

This is a all 110V slot with no transformer everthing is 110. The dinger the coin switch the lights everthing. For a short time maybe 6 months they did not use transformers inside the EM's but started to shortly afterwards and have since. It has a hopper and pays coins. I'll post a inside pic shortly.

[SK8US]

The coils are 110 in this machine.

[SK8US]

If you have one the same as this one, please let me know and I'll buy it for $500 and pay the shipping to Calif. Thanks, Scott

[Amachanic]

Sweet looking machine Scott. I never knew that they were 110V at first . Maybe this was some sort of proto type?? I have a 742, but mines the 50V transformer type...

Gary

[SK8US]

That's a fine machine, my guess you paid more than $500? Also notice the white sides on mine. Those white sides were again only used for a short period of time.  I'll say that Bally EM's are really a classic, fun, great slot. Thanks, Scott

[Amachanic]

Well Scott I did pay only $500 for My 742 about 5 yrs ago. It had an electrial problem that caused the hopper to run as soon as the handle was pulled. I finally found a wire grounded behind the hopper plug. Once that was fixed its been a wonderful machine to play and own. I don't think I would sell it for twice what I paid for it...

Gary 

[SK8US]

Here is part of a statement from AllExperts.com  " The early model 742 had white sides and were 110 volt, then the model 742A where they lowered the voltage to 50 volts in most of the circuits. " " but you have an original with a light up Marquee on top, and the jackpot glass, rare, which has coins you can place behind the glass"  What I have heard is that Nevada Gaming commission outlawed the payout glass first used on these slots that showed coins in the belly glass because that really wasn't what the jackpot was.

[SK8US]

Thanks Gary, you know when I open up a newer slot machine like a S2000 or S+ I try to see where the value is but they sell for more than these in most cases. But when I open up a EM I see a fine hardy well built machine. Maybe I am just more a mechanical guy rather than a electronic board guy? Scott

[SK8US]

Gary are you a East coast or West coast Giants fan or somewhere in between Rangers fan? Scott

[Amachanic]

Scott that's right there was a 742 then the 742A ... I myself like the Bally EM machines. I own 5 of them, and your right they were well built and made to last, not like today's machines where metal was replaced with plastics and computers replaced relays and blade switches.. Who knows, maybe I'm nuts...   I am East coast, live in the Detroit area, but for this world series I like Texas because I was always a big Nolan Ryan fan growing up... Don't get me wrong, nothing against the Giants, just an American League fan...

Gary  

[SK8US]

I have 8 in my house and one Mills but everyone plays the Bally's. I buy and sell these slots and I think the only thing I have replaced to get them going was 2 coils and 2 coin switches oh ya a couple contacts. I can get a pretty good price here in Calif. maybe because they are the only legal ones. I do see new ones all the time on Craig's list but I guess there is no enforcement?? Well the Rangers played a lot better tonight, it keeps it exciting. Scott

[SK8US]

Gary if you can give me your complete model number I can give you the customer who it was made for and all the other info on that model like reel strips number, hopper disc number, glass number, schematic number etc. I acquired a complete Bally list of EM's and just on the 742A's there are over 500 variations. And on to the last page of 182 there is the 1130-2 buy pays ($1) and that was made for the MGM Grand Reno. As far as that goes you could let me know the model  number of any of your slots and I'll let you know what casino it was made for. There are many model numbers that say Bally as the customer but it also has the name of the game and so on. Scott

[Op-Bell]

Don't believe anyone telling you this is a $500 machine. This is incredibly rare, and there is no established price point. 742As are common as dirt, but this is a 742 White Sides. I have heard that only a short run was made, a few dozen at most. Six were submitted to Nevada gaming, which rejected them because of the front glass with coins behind it. Bally took them back and among other things, re-engineered it for 50V before releasing it commercially as the 742A. I know of only one other in working order, which is owned by Bally. There are probably a few more but I have never, ever, seen one of these come up for public sale. If they do change hands it's privately.

Finding the right customer is your problem. I would hold onto it and put it in the Victorian Casino Antiques auction next spring. They get deep pocketed collectors who know what they're looking at.

[SK8US]

Thank you Op-Bell, that is what I have been told also. I received this from a special person that collected Bally ems and has recently passed away. He also worked for Bally years ago while the were here locally. I am not sure I want to part with it though, we'll have to see.
Again thanks, Scott More pictures if interested, just let me know

[Op-Bell]

Yeah.... You can't think of the 742 White Sides as just another EM slot machine. It's in a small class of machines that changed the business forever. In my opinion there are six of these major "firsts" - the original 1902 Fey 3-reel Liberty Bell, the 1931 Mills Silent Jackpot (first machine with a jackpot), the 1967 Dale Pokermatic (first automatic paying poker machine), the 1975 Gamex stepper slot (first virtual reels), the 1978 Fortune Video slot (first video), and this one, the first upright Bally EM, which gave us the hopper payout and the Jerry Kelley cabinet style that everyone copied for 40 years. It would be a tragedy if this disappeared into some anonymous suburban home and ended up battered and broken in a landfill.
 

[scottie]

HI SCOTT
A AUCTION SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA

NEVER SELL THIS FOR $500.00!!!!!!! ITS WORTH A LOT MORE!!!

SCOTTIE

[SK8US]

Thanks for the input. And I wouldn't consider selling it for a low price, actually I enjoy having it along with my collection.
Again Thanks, Scott