help needed with double red white blue machine

[reefpatrol]

I just got a used machine for a real low price because it wasnt working. I dont know much at all about slots since im just getting into them. The previous owner said he had no idea what was wrong with it, other than it didnt work.
When I plug it in and turn it on the flourescent lights come on and it sounds like the speaker makes a click sound, but that about it. No wheels spin or other sounds. I can plug something into the front of the power supply box in the "extra" plug and that item works.
Any suggestions on what to check  first ?

the machine has a manufacture date of 10/96, and the board does not have a volume control wheel like my older machine if any of that makes a difference. I also did check the board to make sure everything is plugged in and from the best I can tell all is.

thanks in advance.

[FORDSBS]

 

[reefpatrol]

sorry about that, forgot to post them.

[reefpatrol]

also, what is this white box type thing on the inside ? It is some sort of timer relay that is plugged into wires where the hopper should go. It had no hopper in the machine, just this thing in its place. I want to unplug it and put a hopper back in.
If it help to diagnose it the green light for the coincomparitor doesnt come oneither.

[FORDSBS]

It's an S+.
Did you check the fuses? On right lower side below the bill acceptor cash can. You have to remove coin tray.
Ford

[reefpatrol]

yes sir, i did pull and check the fuses first and they were all good.

[FORDSBS]

Are there any codes in front display?

[FORDSBS]

Are there any #'s in the win paid-credits- or any where?

[FORDSBS]

Do you know how to pull the main board.
If you pull it there is a battery on there. Check & see what volts you have.

[reefpatrol]

nothing shows up on any of the front displays.
let me check the battery real quick

[FORDSBS]

To remove main board.
MAKE SURE GAME IS TURNED OFF.
It's in rear behind hopper.
Lift up on black knob about 1 or 2 inches & remove board.

[reefpatrol]

if im reading the meter right( new to them also) it is showing 3.67 v

[FORDSBS]

That's good. My knowledge on S+ is limited. Maybe someone else will chime in.
Are you sure the fuses are good?

[reefpatrol]

thank you for the help, i do appreciate it.

any clues as to what the white box timer type relay is for ?

[FORDSBS]

thank you for the help, i do appreciate it.

any clues as to what the white box timer type relay is for ?

Where is it located?

[knagl]

No idea what that white box is -- it's some kind of aftermarket add-in, however, and will not be needed if you intend to put a hopper back in and have this function like a stock machine.

As Ford mentioned, you have an IGT S+ machine -- it's a later model with an imbedded dollar bill validator.  It's a pretty common machine, and parts are generally available at a good price.

The biggest suspect to me right now is the wire harness that goes from the power supply to the motherboard (it's a fairly common issue, and will cause the machine to appear dead).  Look at what I circled from one of your pictures -- that's a sure sign that there may be a problem in the connector.  With the power unplugged you could try unplugging and re-plugging that harness multiple times to try and scrape some of the oxidation off of the contact so it makes a better contact with the motherboard.

Before you apply power, please take a shop vac to the inside of the machine to get up as much of that loose rust as you can, and remove any loose coins laying around inside the machine (I saw at least one in one of your pictures).  Stray metal parts like coins, nuts, bolts, etc. will only cause problems if they short out boards inside the machine.

Then, once you've done that, try plugging the machine back in and see if you have anything on the display(s) at that point.  Also, when the machine is on, check to see if the reels are "stiff" (that is, if they don't spin freely like they do when the machine is off).

[FORDSBS]

thank you for the help, i do appreciate it.

any clues as to what the white box timer type relay is for ?

Where is it located?

Is it the white button next to on - off switch?  The display has to work before you use that. That's for setting up & checking things.

[OhioGaming]

You need to replace the harness between the power supply and mother board. It is to the right of the time delay relay in the picture .. see the burn mark?

[poppo]

No idea what that white box is -- it's some kind of aftermarket add-in,..

My WAG is it is meant to emulate a hopper. When AC is applied, it may time delay pulse the contacts emulating coins dropping.

[reefpatrol]

I saw the burn mark when I blew up the pictures, I will try cleaning and/or changing it.

the white box is in the last picture sitting where the hopper goes.

thanks everyone. I will keep you posted.

[knagl]

My WAG is it is meant to emulate a hopper.

Agreeed with that -- that would have been my guess, too, but I've never seen one hooked up to an S+.

[reefpatrol]

Ok, I took all the boards out of the bottom of the machine and cleaned it all real well. Cleaned out a lot of the rust and mice droppings......as well as cleaned the contacts on the power supply. It worked, the machine came back on, the wheels jumped just a little, but did not spin. Now in the winners paid window it changes from 1 to 3100.

[poppo]

It worked, the machine came back on, the wheels jumped just a little, but did not spin. Now in the winners paid window it changes from 1 to 3100.

Open and close door.

http://www.newlifegames.net/igterrors/

[reefpatrol]

tried to open and close the door and that didnt work.  It flashes from 3100 to 1, then back. The candle above, the lower half flashes fast and the top flashes slow from the best I can tell.
Any other suggestions ?

[stayouttadabunker]

I'd like to ask you a question then...

Is the number changing in the "Coins Played" on the display when you open/close the door?

Remember, the more you can tell/show us - the more we can help you!


ADD>>> You said the reels "jumped a little"...do they remain "stiff-legged" as it is powered on?
There should be some resistance if you were to try to manually turn the a reel by your fingertips.