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« Reply #50 on: August 28, 2011, 09:17:29 PM »

 Did you check all of the boards and monitor fuses as well to make sure nothing has blown?
-what and where is that?   Duh!

 I would also check all of your wire plugs and pin connectors to make sure there isn't any corrosion, bent pins, etc
-Last time my husband did that he broke one of the legs that got us into this boat in the first place lol


Jay i think you are on to something. We did notice that when we took the whole tray out and turn it on it will act the same. Your talking a little over my head with that knobs and erasing something. lol what do you mean by wings?

Also when we had the old CPU in the lights on the top would flash but now nothing.

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« Reply #51 on: August 28, 2011, 10:56:40 PM »

My CEI machine had 2 or 3 fuses on the motherboard and 1 on the monitor PCB...sounds like this might not.

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« Reply #52 on: August 29, 2011, 12:01:17 AM »

The metal tray in which the board is mounted in has a black knob (its usually black). You would usually use the knob to lift or pull the tray from the machine.

The width of the tray is wider than the slot in which it slides into. The metal over hang that stops the board from sliding in further is what I am referring to as wings.

For whatever reason that extra 1/16th of an inch which is garnered by hand bending the tray just slightly makes it fit in all that much better (and work).

There are also two different versions of the upright PE+, the one I have the board slides in horizontally at the top (above the monitor) . On others it slides in vertically on the side by the coin hopper.



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« Reply #53 on: August 29, 2011, 02:52:56 AM »

Jay brings up a good point.  Is the silver metal tray from the eBay one the same size and shape as the tray from the original board?  If not, you can remove your original board from its tray, and put the eBay board into the old tray.
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« Reply #54 on: August 29, 2011, 03:38:03 AM »

the tray is the same, to the T

Also jay i forgot to mention that when we first got it, it worked... or well it said low battery and call attendant. If it was the tray being to big by a little could it just randomly change like that?
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« Reply #55 on: August 29, 2011, 04:00:28 AM »

If the tray doesn't fit right the MPU board doesnt get plugged into the motherboard and you get a black screen.

Plug the board in and give it a slight fist bump to make sure its seated well and/or bend back the tray wings slighty by hand.

If it was working you will still get the low battery warning and you will need to replace the solderd on lithuium battery on the MPU board.
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« Reply #56 on: August 29, 2011, 04:01:22 AM »

Maybe I'm getting lost.  So your old board in the machine was displaying battery low/call attendant and looked fine on the screen?  And then an EPROM was removed and the leg broke off.  Instead of repairing/replacing the EPROM, the suggestion was to buy a replacement board, and now the replacement board and chips that came on that board are producing the current problem.  Is that right?

Sure hope the original problem wasn't just a matter of replacing a battery.  Apologies if the rundown isn't correct... I'm a bit late coming in.

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« Reply #57 on: August 29, 2011, 04:05:25 AM »

Makes no difference if the MPU is installed or not, with the power on pass your hand over the picture tube ( Monitor ) you will /should feel a whole lot of static electricity If you don't best guess is you don't have the monitor fully plugged in. I'm assuming you pulled it out to get the part number for the cap kit.  Did you install the new cap kit ??

Have you checked the battery on the new board ? Have you looked at all the eproms on the new board to make sure they are installed in the right direction with no bent or broken pins ??

Maybe taking a step backwards, but I can see no reason why you can't install the cap prom from the new board to the old board and see if you get the "call attendant" error. If you did this at least you would know if something is wrong with the new board.  
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« Reply #58 on: August 29, 2011, 07:56:18 PM »

 The old CPU "worked" when we first got it but couldn't understand what was on the screen. so my husband was tinkering with it and broke a leg off on one of the chips (and the screen was black like it is now and just the lights on the top are on). After showing the CPU board on the form here. everyone pointed out the problems and how alot of the chips looked corroded. So i just ordered a new board and it does look alot better. So i installed the new CPU in the metal tray.. slid it in... and nothing to lights on top, just a light up black screen.
Jay I'm almost 100% sure it fits right, but your Right it might be the battery. I didn't replace it because when i bought it they said it was taken from a working machine.

I didn't get a cap kit because we are just confused all to hell as is. We didn't mess around with the monitor at all.
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« Reply #59 on: August 30, 2011, 01:14:53 AM »

Okay, how about this.  Ground yourself first (touch some metal that is grounded to to remove any static shock you may have built up), then GENTLY remove the chip from the eBay board that your husband broke from the original board (using a thin flat-head screwdriver, gently pry up on each end between the socket and the chip, a little bit at a time on each side until the chip pops out).  Important: note the direction of the chip (there's small notch at one end to demonstrate direction), and be sure to insert it in the same direction in the old board (you'll see there's a matching notch on the socket to help).  Make sure all of the legs are lined up before you gently and evenly push the chip into the socket, then (with the power OFF), insert the board and then try to power it on and see what happens.
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« Reply #60 on: August 30, 2011, 01:39:45 AM »

My suspicion is that you did not plug the transfomer (large square thing) into the MPU board when you installed it.
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« Reply #61 on: August 30, 2011, 01:43:55 AM »

My suspicion is that you did not plug the transfomer (large square thing) into the MPU board when you installed it.

I don't think she swapped boards between the trays -- I think she tried the eBay board as received and it didn't work.  Granted, we don't know if there are other issues, but it's possible she got a dud board.
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« Reply #62 on: August 30, 2011, 01:55:42 AM »

Do we know if the new board even has all of the chips?  Perhaps a photo of the new board is in order.

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« Reply #63 on: August 30, 2011, 02:25:53 AM »

This lead me to the conclusion that the new board was mounted in the old tray.

The old CPU "worked" when we first got it but couldn't understand what was on the screen. so my husband was tinkering with it and broke a leg off on one of the chips (and the screen was black like it is now and just the lights on the top are on). After showing the CPU board on the form here. everyone pointed out the problems and how alot of the chips looked corroded. So i just ordered a new board and it does look alot better. So i installed the new CPU in the metal tray.. slid it in... and nothing to lights on top, just a light up black screen.
Jay I'm almost 100% sure it fits right, but your Right it might be the battery. I didn't replace it because when i bought it they said it was taken from a working machine.

I didn't get a cap kit because we are just confused all to hell as is. We didn't mess around with the monitor at all.
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« Reply #64 on: August 30, 2011, 06:00:41 AM »

Aah, I see what you're saying, Jay. I guess we'll find out soon! Smiley
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« Reply #65 on: September 01, 2011, 12:18:32 AM »

hello. Yes i mounted the new CPU board to the old metal tray... isn't that what i was sappose to do?

I did plug the wire in from the black box thing that stays on the metal tray

attached is a pic of the new board

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« Reply #66 on: September 01, 2011, 02:17:18 AM »

How come everyone is assuming she has more than one tray ??  Look at the ebay picture and tell me what you see.
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« Reply #67 on: September 01, 2011, 03:01:39 AM »

Buzz is correct, as usual.

Mouse: Care to try this and report your results?

Okay, how about this.  Ground yourself first (touch some metal that is grounded to to remove any static shock you may have built up), then GENTLY remove the chip from the eBay board that your husband broke from the original board (using a thin flat-head screwdriver, gently pry up on each end between the socket and the chip, a little bit at a time on each side until the chip pops out).  Important: note the direction of the chip (there's small notch at one end to demonstrate direction), and be sure to insert it in the same direction in the old board (you'll see there's a matching notch on the socket to help).  Make sure all of the legs are lined up before you gently and evenly push the chip into the socket, then (with the power OFF), insert the board and then try to power it on and see what happens.
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« Reply #68 on: September 01, 2011, 03:22:31 AM »

Ok i will give it a try and keep you posted. to be honest I'm just a little nervous i will break it   Duh!
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« Reply #69 on: September 01, 2011, 04:29:18 AM »

AAAHHHHH OMG IT WORKED!!! one of the many problems fixed!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So i switched the chip and get everything put together turned the reset key and poof it worked. i got to see cards. wow i was excited!
So i ran and got a few quarters, but they would just stick in the top not sliding down so my husband starting plucking away and it and... that did nothing so i donno whats wrong with that. but well he was doing that the screen for worse and worse.
Now i am not sure if it was from him messing with the wires or just the screen warming up. By the time we stopped messing around with it had a black screen again that said "call attendant, low battery" so.. now what do we do? lol

Pic #1 is the screen i started with
Pic #2 the coin collector box? my husband messed with
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« Reply #70 on: September 01, 2011, 04:32:36 AM »

pic #3 the inside of the collector box my husband was messing with
pic #4 the last screen with cards all messed up

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« Reply #71 on: September 01, 2011, 04:41:24 AM »

Awesome Mouse!  Now we're heading in the right direction.  I think a battery change is one of the first things that should be done.  I'm thinking also that the monitor may be having issues.  At any rate, progress is progress right?

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« Reply #72 on: September 01, 2011, 04:45:39 AM »

Looks like you need to stick a coin in your coin comparator.  Slide that spring loaded circle to the right and slip a quarter in there.  It will spring back to the left.  Once that is done, drop a quarter in the machine and see what happens.

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« Reply #73 on: September 01, 2011, 04:47:59 AM »

Yes i agree! very happy!!!!
Do you think i should try with the battery i got from the eBay board or just go and buy a whole new one? I think u can buy them at like radio shack's and places like that right? Also u have to solder them on it looks like eh?

I have known from the start that i need a new cap kit.. whatever the hell that is... or where ever i get that and how ever i change that lol  Cry Laughing

Jason (you sent a msg well i was typing this one out lol) we kept slidding it over and it would just fall out. are you saying you want me to get one kinna stuck half way then put another in?   Scratch Head
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« Reply #74 on: September 01, 2011, 04:48:14 AM »

Here is a video if you need help:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/s8qEKXjT3lg&rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/s8qEKXjT3lg&rel=0</a>

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