Need help with Vision

[triplediamond]

Just picked up a Vision Slingo machine,got it home plugged it in ...monitor black,BV cycles havent tried to see if it accepts cash,Display says Ram Error,no initial reel spin...I reseated IO and CPU boards (while machine was off of course)  Cant get into test functions due to no monitor I have checked for loose connections  ...searching for info on where to go next ...Many thanks in advance
Eric

[cowboygames]

If the machine has been cleared or the ram chips were removed/changed then it will turn on to a ram error. Open the door, get the alarm, turn the jackpot reset key reapetedly until the VFD display tells you to push the reset button on the MPU for 2-3 seconds. Machine should start, but come up with a call attendant error and you'll have to do all this a second time, but then the machine should start fine. I don't beleive the lcd will start till you clear these errors. At the very least I would expect you to need a key 31 to adjust some settings to actually get the game to play. It will depend on whether it was fully cleared or the ram chips were just removed/changed. Let us know where this gets you

[idylewild1]

There is a jumper that will show the boot progress on the screen. Don't remember the jumper number --- but if you are looking at the back of the monitor the jumper is on the left edge of the board.This is like the Bally jumpers which are removable.  This will give you a clue if the monitor is lighting up and if it's booting and how far into the boot process it gets.  The bottom box shouldget to a point where it says waiting for video. After a period of time it will complete the cycle like a regular S2000 even if the monitor doesn't come up. Hope this helps.

[triplediamond]

I will have to get the clear chip from my boss he has a spare CPU board ...about a missing cable at the back of the monitor see pics ,any thoughts...also there is a missing card in the side of the monitor,if i am correct you only need a card in the top slot?
i will try to clear ram and let you know what happens ..
Thanks alot
eric

[stayouttadabunker]

Good pictures...
Your connections look ok off the back of the LCD.
There's nothing missing that you need to get that LCD going.
But where are they running to? LOL
Let's make sure they are hooked up correctly at the other end.

You may NOT need a Clear chip.
What cowboy was trying to tell you was a procedure involving turning the reset key, opening closing the door, etc.etc.. to clear the errors from the blue VFD display.
The IGT S2000 gets "stacked" errors sometimes and you need to open, close the door to get rid of each error.
Sometimes the errors remain on the display until you complete one full game - or in your case, get the LCD computer in the topbox to go through it's boot up mode.

A Clear chip routine is the LAST resort.
Basically it's just for changing the denomination of the machine.
Whether you want to make it a penny machine or a quarter machine, etc.etc.

I don't think that's what you need to do right now.
Focus on getting the Vision computer up and running...re-read carefully cowboy's post.

Also, if you get a chance, report to us what SB, SG, VS, and BGM card you have
installed in that machine.
They must ALL match in order to boot up the LCD.

The more that you can tell/show us - the better we can help you.

ADD>>> The jumper idyle was talking about is inside the LCD on the circuit board.
I think you need to remove the back panel of the LCD to get at it.
However, there are some holes at the bottom of the panel where you might be able to get at it without taking off the panel.
I will look at mine and see if that's possible.
 

[triplediamond]

Sorry I misunderstood I will try this and let you know
Thanks

[stayouttadabunker]

The jumper I believe is JP3 and the only way to get at it is to remove the back cover panel.
It's not something you want to do when your LCD is all hooked up right now.
Let's forget that for now and concentrate on getting rid of your blue VFD screen errors.
We may not need to move the jumper if we can get past the VFD errors.

It's getting pretty late out here on the East coast so I'm hoping that someone that
has a Vision hooked up can jump in on this topic and give us a hand.
I don't have my Vision hooked up right now and I'm getting kinda sleepy.
I'll heck in tomorrow and see how this progresses.

[triplediamond]

OK....I hit reset key pushed reset button went as far as MS VERIFY:App Start on display
Eric

[cowboygames]

Do you ever get anything on the top box LCD? I believe that display gets power from the distribution board at the back of the top box and has a netplex connection going to the motherboard along with audio connections going the same place.

[triplediamond]

I will check wires to MPU..... At this point still no monitor and display still stuck on MS Verify App start

[lindam1]

Vision models do get power from Dist. board (center back wall)
Vision model will take about 7 min. to fully boot, be patient
If still no screen after 7 min. but machine works......there is a small board inside vision box on one side with 2 little transformers. this board goes bad causing no screen, BUT machine will play.
Lindsay

[triplediamond]

OK ......After about 15 -20 min no boot on LCD..... No reel spin...No display on WP and Credit windows....display went from MS Verify App Start to MS Verify Comm Errror

[lindam1]

check all plugs on backplane. check mpu for bent pin and be sure it's in all the way after you check pins. sometimes a pin will even get pushed back in the socket so look for that to. you might want to make sure all the ic's on the mpu anr in properly and in all the. no bent pins and the like.
Is this a new machine or was it working in the past?
Lindsay

[PLUNGER BOY]

 My vision   if in a cold room  less than 55 F will not boot up takes forever and i have to turn it on and off multiple times  to get past the MS Verify App Start   ( note*** there is a small message   on the top  screen on the left bottom of screen ) cant remember but will look  . this is on a 5 reel cleopatra  machine

[triplediamond]

That was my next question ....I picked it up last night so i just stuck it in the garage and its 20 degrees out side the garage is warm but not that warm,i will move it in today and see what it does later....i got it from a guy that didnt know much about it and it was probably working before he got it ..

[lindam1]

Have fun with that "move it inside" part. They are heavy buggers

[triplediamond]

UPDATE..machine is warmed up ... my back is warming up.... finally ..boots up goes through restart closure M etc but comes up with Main battery low and there is a problem w/machine on LCD,and I can turn reset key and veiw menues on screen :..........making progress     

[cowboygames]

If the main battery is low it will have to be replaced before it'll boot. Do you have a board you can swap for the MPU long enough to see if that's the only problem?

[triplediamond]

I will have to get a spare from my boss tomorrow, i will try it then...thanks everyone for getting me this far...

[Yoeddy1]

Triplediamond, glad you're seeing some light ahead.  Snap some photos or video of that beauty when you get it going.  We like multimedia around here!

Congrats on your toy!

Jason

[stayouttadabunker]

lolollolol I didn't know he was trying to turn on a Vision in a freezing    garage!?!?!?!!! :
No WONDER it won't boot up!!! 

Let that cold puppy warm up a bit and with a new battery -
you oughta be back in business!!

[PLUNGER BOY]

lolollolol I didn't know he was trying to turn on a Vision in a freezing    garage!?!?!?!!! :
No WONDER it won't boot up!!! 

Let that cold puppy warm up a bit and with a new battery -
you oughta be back in business!!

I told you so COLD machines are FICKEL

[triplediamond]

Update .....Swamped out MPU Board ..no battery low error ....starts to boot up but stays at MS Verify App Start and LCD is orange and says Error Some Components are missing.....My other problem is the base game and reel chips in the origional board have no tags on them so i cannot be sure they are the right ones

[stayouttadabunker]

Update .....Swamped out MPU Board ..no battery low error ....starts to boot up but stays at MS Verify App Start and LCD is orange and says Error Some Components are missing.....My other problem is the base game and reel chips in the origional board have no tags on them so i cannot be sure they are the right ones

Where are you seeing the two messages? On the blue VFD display or on the LCD up in the topbox?
"Some Components Are Missing" message may very well be a missing ATA card or BGM card.
I like to start my Vision with both slots in the LCD occupied with the correct CF cards
until the machine is running good.
The "orange" screen might mean the LCD's computer isn't properly
or fully loaded with the OS system?
Goes back to the message ...>>> "Some Components Are Missing"

[triplediamond]

The VFD says MS Verify App Start ,the LCD says Some Components are missing, There is a card in top slot but no card in side slot ..again along with the game chips I am not sure the top card in the LCD is the correct one .