New Programmer baby born at my house...

[stayouttadabunker]

No,
There's a button on top (shown in photo) that has (01..ff).
When I hover over the button with my cursor, a small dialog box pops up saying "Fill buffer with 0xFF".
It's like you would use that button to fill up the data "Code Memory" page with FF's.
Sort of like you see when you initially turn the programmer on.
 

[stayouttadabunker]

When I hover the AB button with the cursor, I get a small dialog box that says "Byte Swap".
When I have a file uploaded, all the AB button does is sort of switch data around...swaps data inputs on the lines.
Like as if you would want to change stuff in the the data before burning.
Shown is a picture of the cursor hovering over the AB button>>
 

[Foster]

Oops I forgot about the 00.....FF fill Icon it does exactly as it implies.
It fills an address range with the byte value you enter

The A B Icon swaps the even and odd bytes in the buffer, I would not mess with it.

[Ron (r273)]

So stayouttabunker, have you tried leaving the "from address" 0x0000 and "to address" to 0xC000 and the "Data" to 0x2000?

Ron

[stayouttadabunker]

yes, I clicked on the "01.. ..FF" button,
it brings up the dialog box where I have options to "Fill Buffer With Data".
The first line is titled: "From Address(Hex) 0x (whatever I want to enter goes here)
The second line is titled: "To Address(Hex) 0x (whatever I want to enter goes here)
The last line line is titled: "Data(Hex) (whatever I want to enter goes here)
This is a photo of what I'm talking about>>>
when you click on the link, you can open it much larger and clearer...

[stayouttadabunker]

This is when after I entered "C000">>

Now, do I change anything down in the third line?
Or should I leave the default "FF"" there?
I aslo found that I can make enter any changes even though the programmer isnt plugged in.
The programmer box is really only needed when I do the actual reading or burning, the physical box isnt needed when configuring these dialog boxes.

[Ron (r273)]

This is when after I entered "C000">>

Now, do I change anything down in the third line?
Or should I leave the defaut "FF"" there?

The third line gets the 0x2000.

[brichter]

The dots and text that you see on the right represent the ASCII value of the hex numbers stored in each address. If there is no ASCII equivalent of the hex number then a dot is printed. Otherwise the ASCII text value is displayed.

If the readable data on the right looks like garbage, it's because the binary data is actually machine code and just happens to correspond to random ASCII values.
If the readable data on the right actually says something in English, it's because the binary code is being used to represent characters that will be displayed or printed out for the end user at some point when the program runs.

So, here's a question:

When I look at the data in a Hex editor, I can find the string I want, but it's always in nonconsecutive order. For instance, the word INVALID is the string I'm looking for, but it shows up like this (I've highlighted one possible match):

l.om Fse wPleaINVAait.LINELID.N.ST DOWY.UNANDBIGURCONF

As you can see there are other possibilities in that string that could make up the word I searched for. How do I determine what characters are the ones contained in my search string?

[stayouttadabunker]

["The third line gets the 0x2000"] quote

I cannot enter "0X2000", the third line "Data(Hex)" It will accept no more than 2 integers.
The most I can enter there is "20"
When I hit the "OK" button, the code memory filled up with 20's everywhere from line "0000" all the way down to line"C000".
Also, there are usually periods and writing on the right side - now there's nothing....is that what you want me to do?
 see photo>>

[Ron (r273)]

Sorry my idea is not working on your programmer. This must only work on the old "Enhanced Willem" I have. If you could get hold of Rick Hunter, he may have some more suggestions.

Ron

<edit> Have you check this?

http://www.mcumall.com/forum/default.asp

[stayouttadabunker]

okay,
Thanks for all your help r273!...I'm learning a lot though
I'll keep burning 'till something works

ADD>>I did check out that link and there's lots to learn there as well.
I just got off the phone with uniman and he walked me through the copy/paste method of moving data around onto the various address lines in the code memory area ( as Op-Bell suggested earlier)
 I have to thank all those who've helped me on this and will get back here soon with some posts on how it all went.

Beep, beep ,beep....      ***We now return to regular scheduled programming***


Have a great weekend!

[uniman]

I think I can answer two questions here.

First, the main one. Think of an EPROM as a notebook. A 27C64 has one page, and the larger 27C256 has 8 pages. The address lines tell the EPROM which page you're looking at. Since the 27C64 only has one page, it doesn't have enough addresses for eight - those pins are still there, but used for other things and tied to fixed voltages. When you drop in a 27C256, those fixed voltages select one of its 8 pages, which is probably not the one you wrote on. So the trick is to use the burner software to copy the same data to all eight pages, at 0000, 2000, 4000, 6000, 8000, A000, C000 and E000. Then it doesn't matter which page gets selected, you still read the same information. Load the 27C64 one-page data - it goes in at 0000 - then copy it to all the others one at a time, then burn the 27C512.

Hope this helps.

Do what this man says.
Select eprom size 27c512
Open you IGT file.
Copy it
Paste it at 2000, 4000, 6000, 8000, A000, C000, and E000
Burn your eprom.
Done

[Op-Bell]

The third box is for 8 bit data to put in each location, so you can't enter "2000" there, it's too many bits.

'20' is the code for <space>, so you do actually have data down the right side, it's just all spaces. Try entering '41' in the third box, you'll get all 'A's.

[Foster]

here is the way to do it correctly using the software, I do not currently have my GQ-2X available.
It has since been replaced by a EasyPRO 90B.
the GQ-4X came out after I got my EasyPRO 90B

[stayouttadabunker]

Foster!
That's very similiar to the software I'm using....how did you capture the screen?
I'm getting real sick of making my pictures smaller so they fit on "800x600" on NLG posts.
I'm using windoze XP.
One thing for sure, the bloody "print screen" button on my keyboard never worked

By the way,
I did that Foster, but it only wrote data on lines "0000" down to line "1FF0".
It doesnt work in my S+ like that.
I think I have to copy and paste the data over and over  beginning on lines 2000, 4000, 6000, 8000, A000, C000, and E000 in order for the chip to work.

[jdkmunch]

Press ctrl-printscreen or alt-printscreen  -- one captures the whole desktop and the other captures just the open window. 

Once you do that you can just paste into word or photoshop to save the image... that should help

[Foster]

Foster!
That's very similiar to the software I'm using....how did you capture the screen?
I'm getting real sick of making my pictures smaller so they fit on "800x600" on NLG posts.
I'm using windoze XP.
One thing for sure, the bloody "print screen" button on my keyboard never worked

It is called Snipping Tool which is part of Windows 7
Yes I like Vista, but I like Windows 7 even more

[stayouttadabunker]

That's pretty cool....lol...I always thought the "print screen" button on the keyboard was for sending the page to your printer and physically printing the bloody thing!

[StatFreak]

That's pretty cool....lol...I always thought the "print screen" button on the keyboard was for sending the page to your printer and physically printing the bloody thing!

It used to a long time ago.

Another tip: If you find that you can't just paste the screen shot directly into your photo program, open MS Word and paste the picture in word. Then re-copy the image to the clipboard and paste it into your photo program. This works anytime that you have an image in the clipboard that can't be pasted as a new image in a photo program. This has also worked for me when getting images off of a web page that has disabled the right-click function to try to stop people from downloading the pictures. I drag the cursor over the image to highlight it and press <ctrl> C. The clipboard object can't be pasted as an image into my photo software, but the MSWord trick works every time. MicroCrap.. gotta love'em.

[StatFreak]

here is the way to do it correctly using the software, I do not currently have my GQ-2X available.
It has since been replaced by a EasyPRO 90B.
the GQ-4X came out after I got my EasyPRO 90B

...
By the way,
I did that Foster, but it only wrote data on lines "0000" down to line "1FF0".
It doesnt work in my S+ like that.
I think I have to copy and paste the data over and over  beginning on lines 2000, 4000, 6000, 8000, A000, C000, and E000 in order for the chip to work.

By all means, do the multi-paste as Op-Bell instructed to get you up and running.

But for giggles, would you try my suggestion from all the way back on Page 2?

…
I believe that what you need to do is to put 0000 in the file offset box, and c000 in the device offset box.
It that doesn't work, try it the other way.
…

Try putting c000 in the file offset box and 0000 in the device offset box. It would be good to know how to achieve burning the file data into an offest location on the chip. The program has to have this capability, and maybe the nomenclature used for the text boxes is just misleading.

[Foster]

File loads the data in the buffer into that address as it loads the data from the file.
Device only applies during the programming and verify cycle, meaning the data is placed in the device starting at the offset and read back starting at that offset during the verify.

Whatever you do, do not use both file and device offset at same time (may be rare cases where it may be useful)

[stayouttadabunker]

I'll try both suggestions even though I like the copy/paste method.
By the way, when I DID the copy/paste method, the data completly filled up the code memory area from the beginning (0000) to the bottom and last line (FFF0).
It's like as if I copied the same data file 8 times in a row. I saved that redone file before I burned one eprom using the copy/paste method.
Now I will try it your way (C000) in the file offeset box...
give ya an update soon...
somebody's gonna win a "IGHT" slot machine from navinut yet!

update: I have a crazy order of SST's  512-sized EEproms coming in.  I then will will able to use the erase button on the programmer,  instead of me staring at the pile of mistakes on the corner of my table....

[stayouttadabunker]

This the "copy/paste" attempt and how it looks after the copy is made>>

[jdkmunch]

Marc  -  What did you press Alt-PrtScr or Ctrl-Pctscr ?? - -    one will just snap the window in focus so you don't get the entire desktop  --  I'm on my mac now and don't remember  which is which.


Looks great thou --


would look better if the chip worked!!!!!!!!!   

you will crack it... I can't wait to try-- - they mailed it Wednesday so I'm hoping for Tuesday delivery.

[StatFreak]

<Ctrl><PrtScn> captures the entire desktop.
<Alt><PrtScn> captures the active window. For Windows Server, I believe that you need to press <Alt><Right Shift><Prtscn> to do this.