Very close to working TITO

[jdkmunch]

Jcm may be 100% right
I'm just spectacle of everything

What magic solution is on
Their pads?

I just think it is some alcohol
Solution.

[jdkmunch]

I have to tell you I was shocked when my Bv took
The ticket


You should try two or three times

[Yoeddy1]

So I shouldn't have used Mad Dog 20/20 to clean it.  Is that we're saying here?

Jason

[jdkmunch]

Bleach and hydrochloric acid work best

[Yoeddy1]

UPDATE:

Well, I got another WBA 11SS bill head in the mail today.  The good news is that it now reads tickets and TITO is working great on my S2000 now.  So both machines are working with TITO.  The bad news is that this bill head does exactly the opposite of the other one.  It will read tickets all day long, but won't read any bills.    I take that back, I did finally get it to read a 1 dollar bill.  What I think I'll do at this point is order a calibration paper.  I cleaned all of the sensors, rollers, belts, path.  Maybe these bill heads do get out of alignment, thus affecting what they can read, and casinos just replace them instead of clean and calibrate...who knows.

Anyway, I'll get some video up later.

Thanks again!

Jason

[jdkmunch]

And all dip switches are off?

[Yoeddy1]

And all dip switches are off?

Yep.  All looks good.  The 11SS bill head in my Game King reads bills and tickets.  The 12SS bill head in my S2000 will read bills but not tickets.  And the 11SS bill head that I just received in the mail today to replace the 12SS in my S2000 will read tickets, but not bills.

Ya win some ya lose some...shrug.  I'll try the calibration paper next.

Jason

[Yoeddy1]

Fail with the calibration paper, even though the calibration process reports sucess with either bill head.  See here:  http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=20242.new#new



Jason

[Yoeddy1]

The setup is complete!  Today I received another bill head (thanks again Roslyn from CVSlots) and after a quick cleaning and a couple of calibrations with the JCM WBA calibration paper, taking bills and tickets is no longer an issue.  This is seriously the coolest project in gaming!  

I wanted to make you guys a video of my setup, and when I get a bit of time, I'll document my settings.  My machines are setup for TITO, bills, and partial payout of $5.00 worth of 25 cent tokens.  Both machines are multi-denom of .25/.50/1.00/2.00.  The old bill head used to occasionally misread tickets and would plug in thousands of credits.  This has not happened with my current setup.  I think Foster had mentioned that this is a related bill head problem that others have experienced.

Anyway, thanks again to everyone involved in the project.  BIG thanks to jdkmunch for the guidance and hardware recommendations!

Jason

[Ron (r273)]

 

Now someone needs to make plug and play kit for us dummies.

Ron (r273)

[FORDSBS]

Now someone needs to make plug and play kit for us dummies.

Ron (r273)

 

[TZtech]

What would NLG'rs be willing to pay for a kit ?

Jason - Good to see You got it going.

How common is the mis crediting problem ? Have been thinking about adding a CRC check to the validation number generated to try and avoid this.

[staz]

good job jason

[Yoeddy1]

The kit that staz, jdkmunch, and myself use consist of the following parts as shown below:

The yellow cable is an RJ-45 cable that has the appropriate connectors.  The small black connector plugs into the slot/poker machine and the other end plugs into the blue Max232 pcb.
The Max232 pcb is connected to the larger blue Amicus18 pcb with 4 connecting wires.  The black wire represents ground, the red wire represents +5v, the yellow represents RXD, and the blue represents TXD.
The Amicus18 is connected to with a Male A to Male A USB cable to the power source.  One end goes into the Amicus18 and the other end goes into a USB power plug.  In my case, I just used an Apple iPhone USB plug.

All of the parts can be purchased online.  Munch recommended www.newark.com for the Amicus18.  The Max232 can be purchased on Ebay.  By the way, I have four extras that I will sell cheap if anybody needs them for this project.  The USB Male A to Male A cable and USB plug can be bought anywhere.  The RJ-45 cable is a homegrown solution.  I actually had mine made for me as I didn't have the tools to do so. 

Once the hardware put together, you will also need to download and install Amicus18 Compiler Setup.exe from http://www.myamicus.co.uk/forum.php 
This is the software interface that is used to compile the Amicus18 pcb.  In other words, this is the board that stores the information for TITO.  TZTech has uploaded the TITO file somewhere in this thread.  TZ or Munch will have to chime in with instructions on compiling the Amicus18 pcb.  All I know is that you connect the Amicus18 to your computer with a USB cable, Windows will recognize the Amicus18 as a device, and the Amicus18 Compiler software is used to send the TITO file to the Amicus18.

Once compiled it's a matter of connecting the hardware to the slot/poker machine, and making the appropriate settings with your keychip.  Munch and staz mention the settings several times in this thread.

TZ, I only had the misread tickets occur 2 or 3 times, but that was with the old bill head.  I have yet to see it on the new one after a cleaning and calibration.

Thanks,
Jason

[Yoeddy1]

The big question now is how do we tie it into a redemption center?  LOL!

Jason

[coorslight115]

The big question now is how do we tie it into a redemption center?  LOL!

Jason

I have not been following this thread, My question is I have 13 machines I  want to hook this up to, I have been using Roberts program. Can you  print a ticket on one machine and put it in another machine and have it recognized ?

[zarobhr]

The big question now is how do we tie it into a redemption center?  LOL!

Jason

I have not been following this thread, My question is I have 13 machines I  want to hook this up to, I have been using Roberts program. Can you  print a ticket on one machine and put it in another machine and have it recognized ?

and for those that dont know robert is zarobhr

[Yoeddy1]

The big question now is how do we tie it into a redemption center?  LOL!

Jason

I have not been following this thread, My question is I have 13 machines I  want to hook this up to, I have been using Roberts program. Can you  print a ticket on one machine and put it in another machine and have it recognized ?

Yep...watch my video.

Jason

[staz]

The big question now is how do we tie it into a redemption center?  LOL!

Jason

I have not been following this thread, My question is I have 13 machines I  want to hook this up to, I have been using Roberts program. Can you  print a ticket on one machine and put it in another machine and have it recognized ?

yes you can but you will have to hook up and set every machine with a tito set up....

[TZtech]

Bear in mind that there is no central validation server as is the case in Roberts and Fosters SW - Tickets can be re used and as such this is only suitable for home use environments.
The setup that Jason, Munch and Staz are using currently is a bit expensive - I have posted details on a cheaper dev board that could be used. Still need to do some proper documentation for this I hope to get this done soon.

[Yoeddy1]

Yeah, that's true TZ.  For those that have a lot of machines in their game rooms, I can see where this setup could get costly in a hurry.  For 2 or 3 machines, it's not too bad.

Jason

[zarobhr]

and once player tracking is working most likely its going to be a combination of the backend sooftware and a device at the machne

[billb707]

That is amazing.  I have been wondering if that is possible and here somebody did it.  CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!


I was thinking how it would be fun to put jackpot tickets back in the machine, but I guess they might not take if the amount is too high.

[zarobhr]

That is amazing.  I have been wondering if that is possible and here somebody did it.  CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!


I was thinking how it would be fun to put jackpot tickets back in the machine, but I guess they might not take if the amount is too high.

actually it is impossible to use redeem a jackpot ticket in a machine.
if you look at a regular ticket and the jackpot ticket you will notice that on a regular ticket the barcode is centered on the ticket.
on the jackpot ticket the barcode is at the bottom of the ticket.

the bill validators can only read the barcode from the center of the ticket, it will not read from the bottom of ticket

also if the host is written properly since jackpots are considered handpays, the validation number would be marked as non redeemable in the system so even if you could get the bar code to read on a jackpot ticket, it should be rejected the same a a previously redeemed ticket would be rejected

[billb707]

That's funny, I noticed the Jackpot Receipt line, but never realized they moved the barcode!

Is there a way to allow jackpots remain on the machine and playable? 

I have a game king 4.3 and play some games at the 80 credits $25 each level and have a ticket printed every time there is a 4 of a kind win, I get a ticket.

Is there a solution for that?

Also, how does one change the date?  My tickets all started with 1991.

Thanks.