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« on: August 11, 2012, 05:17:00 AM »
In general what does a bill validator comm failure mean?
This on a S2000 machine.
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2012, 10:31:41 AM »
For a JCM BV it means the game has lost communication with the validator. This can be a harness, bad program in the BV (or wrong software) or an error in the BV that prevents it from completing its self test.
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2012, 04:13:41 PM »
Thanks for repling . I had a Mars BV in the machine it did not work either, but it did do the self test . This will not do that. I think this one is a WBA -13.
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2012, 08:14:07 PM »
Well I put the Mars BV back in and the error went away. Telling me that the new BV that I  bought is bad.
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2012, 10:13:30 PM »
What BV did you buy for your S2000?
I hope it was either a WBA-12/13 or UBA-10 because a DBV-xxx will not work in the S2000
I think DBV series of Bill Validators reached end of life (discontinued) in the late 1990's or very early 2000's
Also did you make sure you ordered one with ID024 software?
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2012, 10:19:13 PM »
Well I think it is a WBA 13.  I bought it from John . Rudy's steals and deals i think
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2012, 10:22:12 PM »
What label is on it and the EPROM on the transport.
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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2012, 10:51:16 PM »
WBA 13 id003
Ver 375-32i
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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2012, 10:53:29 PM »
As for as EPROM I don't know where that is
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« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2012, 11:37:49 PM »
It's on the bottom side of the transport.  If you remove it from the machine and flip it upside down you'll see it there.  ID003 is for Bally machines,  you need ID024 for a S2000.
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« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2012, 11:56:01 PM »
This transport seems to be all one piece . The cash box fits on it. I can see the chip through a hole on the side . Don't  know how to take the transport off.
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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2012, 12:13:56 AM »
The transport has a small handle on the front of it, right under the plastic "duckbill" mounted on the front that you insert the bill into.   If you pull on it you'll feel it move down a little bit, and then pull it straight out (with the power off).  The EPROM chip will be on the bottom of it.
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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2012, 12:31:07 AM »
Found it.Got it removed. The info on the EPROM  is
WBA  12/13-as
ID 003.   USA  c9ab
JCM corp
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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2012, 12:46:55 AM »
Quote from: rickaaaer on August 11, 2012, 11:56:01 PM
This transport seems to be all one piece . The cash box fits on it. I can see the chip through a hole on the side . Don't  know how to take the transport off.
thanks now I know this ID 003 is for Bally
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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2012, 12:53:56 AM »
Just below the bill entry is metal rod or bar you push down on it (which only releases the BV head) now just below it is the release for the whole transport.
Let me find a picture and see if I can mark them for you

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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2012, 12:59:56 AM »
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I got it out an it has a Bally EPROM in it. The ID # is 003.
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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2012, 01:01:09 AM »
Quote from: rickaaaer on August 12, 2012, 12:59:56 AM
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I got it out an it has a Bally EPROM in it. The ID # is 003.. Oh I almost forgot thanks.
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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2012, 01:19:56 AM »
Great.  I'll bet if you place a WTB in the classified ad section you'll find a vendor who can provide you with a current IGT ID024 chip for it.
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« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2012, 01:22:23 AM »
That would be why it is not working in your S2000
You have 2 options:
See if you get the vendor you got it from to exchange it for one the latest ID024 software on it. you will want to exchange both the head and transport, because every time the software is updated it is best to have the head/transport calibrated as a pair
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Buy the ID024 EPROM from some one and see if you can borrow the calibration sheet and download the WBA manual from JCM link on main page of NLG
The manual details how to do the calibration.  I do not think it will force you to do calibration with the new firmware but calibrating it, adjusts the LEDs and optics for optimum performance which helps reduce bill and ticket rejection.
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« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2012, 01:44:08 AM »
Thanks for all your feed back on this problem. I'm going to ask the person I bought it from to make it good
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« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2012, 02:21:01 AM »
Did you ask or specify which ID# you were buying? Or indicate what type of machine it was for? Just curious, as I always try and be sure to include the ID# info in my listing to avoid this exact situation. If I don't know if it will work in your machine, I'll find out, or if not, I'll tel you I don't know.
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« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2012, 02:27:00 AM »
I bought this from Rudy's steals and deals. I said it was for a S2000. They sent me one for a Bally machine.
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« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2012, 02:58:05 AM »
Aww...then I'm sure it was just a mix-up...
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« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2012, 03:17:28 AM »
Yes I think so
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