IGT Double Double bonus poker slant top

[Lyzard]

  Hello I just got a Double Double Bonus Poker Slant top machine and I am having several issues with it I was told that it worked perfect well it don't

Issue #1 the Monitor is very dim there is a picture but the room has to be very dark to see it and they brightness has to be all the way up

Issue #2 Coin Comparator not accepting coins (coin to compare in place) coins fall back to player

Issue #3 Bill Validator not accepting bills seems to have power but when I try to insert a bill nothing happends

not sure if this is the right place to put this post but I hope to get some help

[CVslots]

Yes, it is the correct place to post! Welcome to NLG!

That is not good news about your machine, but I'm sure the guys here can help you out if you are somewhat mechanically inclined and can follow instructions! 

You may want to take a couple pics, like one of comparitor and one of Bill Acceptor, lot of times they will spot something in a picture that's just not right. Also, keep reading posts related to problems you are having and that will get you more familiar with the machine.

As far as the monitor, there are brightness controls, but sounds like the issue maybe larger than an adjustment.

[Lyzard]

  I will take some pic's as soon as I can also would like to know if i should oil or lubricate the hopper is is kinda rusty not bad but sounds kinda rough when it is running

Like I said can see the monitor when it is completely dark in the room so have been able to check the hopper motor through the setup button menu's

If i should deal with the hopper lubrication how do i remove it

thanks

PS here are some pic's of the machine any help is greatly appreciated I work on computers so I am pretty sure with your help i can get this to work

This is my First slot machine and I hope to get more eventually

   There is no light on the CC but the BV does it initial start-up and lights stay on but when attempting to put bill in nothing happends

[Lyzard]

 OK so here are some photo's i hope will help if you need more info please let me know

I would also like to do a cleaning of the hopper but I am not sure how to get it out

found out the the bill acceptor is a DVB 200 if that is helpfull

also that the insert bills light does not come on after it initializes have check the bill collector box and it seams to be seated right but still nothing

[Lyzard]

here is a picture of the tag under the arm rest if it helps also i think i have a superboard as there is a menu that I can choose what game I want to play

so from what I have read on the site I got a PE+ on my hands

would really love to get this to accept coins and bill so that I can play it

[knagl]

Hi there, welcome to the site.

Issue #1: You may need a new monitor.  There aren't a lot of user-serviceable parts in the monitor or chassis for the average home user.  A picture of the monitor while its on might help us troubleshoot exactly why it's doing what it's doing.

Issue #2: Try adjusting the sensitivity of the comparator to make it less likely to reject coins. See this post for details on how to do that: http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=10759.msg93615#msg93615

Issue #3: Is your bill validator enabled?  Press the white self-test button located near the power switch a number of times until you get to a screen that shows if the bill validator is enabled or disabled.  Please let us know what is says there, and we can give you further troubleshooting steps after we know whether it's enabled or not.

[Lyzard]

  thanks for you response kangl

do you think a TV repair man might be able to fix the monitor if not will find one on-line somewhere

will try to adjust the sensitivity but there is no light on in the comparator

yes the BV is enabled in the set up screen the insert bill light does not come on after power on but bv cycles

[Lyzard]

   Monitor going to a Repair man but I would still like to know how to get the CC and the BV to work also would like to know how to add credits to the machine to check playability

also how do i remove the mpu on it don't want to pull to hard and i don't see any latches are there any want to check the board for any problems but I can get is out do i have to remove the hopper first !!! it is a slant top so i didn't think i had to

hope to hear from someone soon

thanks for your help!!!

[knagl]

will try to adjust the sensitivity but there is no light on in the comparator

That green LED on the comparator will only come on when the machine is ready to accept a coin.  In particular, it will only be on when the hatch door is closed and fully latched, so you'll typically never see the actual LED lit.

I would still like to know how to get the CC and the BV to work also would like to know how to add credits to the machine to check playability

To add credits to "check playability", you really need to get the machine to accept coins and/or bills.

For the coin comparator, please try adjusting the sensitivity as previously mentioned.

For the bill validator, there are a few things to check:

- Is there a stacker box ("cash can") properly inserted into the validator housing?  Don't be afraid to remove it (use the lever on the right side of the inside of the housing to unlatch the box, then forcefully slide it back into place to re-insert it).

- Does the validator sound like its mating nicely with the box, or does the thing cycle a number of times before finally stopping?


In order to enable, the machine must see the main door(s) and bill door as closed (this applies to the coin acceptance as well).  When you close the main hatch door, does the "Door Open" message disappear?  (A "closure" message should also appear in small letters when the "Door Open" message goes away.)  If the machine is always seeing the door as open, it will not accept bills or coins.

also how do i remove the mpu on it don't want to pull to hard and i don't see any latches are there any want to check the board for any problems but I can get is out do i have to remove the hopper first !!! it is a slant top so i didn't think i had to

Not sure what problems you expect to find visually since the machine sounds like it's mostly functioning, but yes, you can remove the MPU board.  First, always make sure to have the power OFF when you remove or insert the board.  If you have the machine on when you do that, you can cause permanent damage to the board.

The board should just slide straight out towards you as you stand at the front of the machine.  If it hasn't been removed in a while, it may be a little sticky to get it started, but it should pop out.  There is a small handle sticking out of the metal housing of the MPU board -- slide that towards the front of the machine.  Once you have the board slid most of the way out, angle it towards the hopper bowl.  You'll notice that the hopper bowl is an odd shape, and it is designed specifically so that with a roughly 90-degree rotation as you're removing the board that you can remove the board from the machine without removing the hopper.  It'll make more sense as you're doing in versus just reading this.

[Lyzard]

  OK will check the "Cash Can" and get back to you

as far as I can tell the Doors are closing but will have to wait and see if the repair man can get my monitor working to check for sure will post back when I find out

I will not pull the mpu out thought there might be a fuse or something on there that was preventing the CC or the BV from working
 
the bv cycles several times but the insert bill lamp does not come on there were credits on the machine when i got it and my daughter hit the cash out button figured that the hopper was empty so i got about $20 in Nickels and have finally got to stop paying out when i close the doors but the machine will not accept bills or coins even in blind play (screen installed but not working) have not turned machine on with monitor out so i don't know if that will make a difference am afraid to try at any rate will wait to see if the monitor can be fixed if not will order one

and there is no click of the CC i have an arcade cabinet and when i turn on the power i hear the click of the CC in thec arcade cab so i know what to listen for

thanks for you help in the mean time

[Mirage_Chaser]

I know that it is really simple but if it is in the middle of a game it will neither accept coins or bills. So try hitting deal and see if the game ends.

[knagl]

The validator should not cycle several times. A couple, yes, but more than that usually indicates an issue. Either way, we really need to wait until you have a working monitor before we can go further. If the machine isn't seeing the door as closed, we'll be chasing our tail with other troubleshooting...

[Lyzard]

  understood will inform you when I get a working monitor

Thanks for you help so far

[Lyzard]

  Found out that the monitor is fried so am going to have to order another one not sure where to get one will look online

[Buzz]

 Lyzard  Are you in the Army and stationed at Fort Bragg ?? I would really like to know, I've hauled lumber out of Ft. Bragg and as I recall it's not a place I would ever want to go back to.

[Lyzard]

 Actually Buzz No I live in Fort Bragg Ca. It is about 7 hours north of San Francisco in Mendocino County

Some have called it "The Lost Coast" but as over 10,000 visitors come here every year I think some know where it is.

Lyzard

[Lyzard]

 ok I found out from the repair man that one of the video IC chips is bad in my monitor he says he tried to find one but couldn't (only had it overnite) i guess i am either going to have to see if I can find one or get a new monitor

Man I was hoping to get this running !!!!

Thanks

Lyzard

[Lyzard]

OK while I am waiting for my monitor to arrive I was wondering if it is possible to disassemble the buttons for cleaning I know how to get them out of the machine but was wondering if they can be cleaned and reused I can order new ones if necessary but would like to use the originals if possible

Thanks

Lyzard

[4 Deuces]

Hi Lyzard,

After removing the cherry switch and bulb, you can actually soak them in hot, soapy water.  I've found though that it takes a while for the water to evaporate.  So, I take them apart.  You'll want to be careful because as they get older, they get more fragile as the plastic parts start to decay, particularly the white plastic piece that's spring loaded.  That tiny little white leg on that piece is what presses on the cherry switch button, so you've got to be cautious.

I start by carefully squeezing the two side white legs to separate the base from the button and remove the spring.
To remove the clear cap, you can hold the sides and use the eraser end of a pencil to push through the hole in the bottom.  Basically, there are only two notches on each side that hold the cap in place.

Wash them all and reassemble.

The newer buttons aren't quite as fragile and easier to replace bulbs.  You can get a set on SuzoHapp for about $30.

Good luck!

[Lyzard]

  so do you think it would be better to just replace them or to try and clean them I have heard that once you take them apart they don't go back together !!! am consered about losing the original look but I will replace if that is advised just really want it to work well

also can i check to see if I am getting any power to my coin comparator with the door open I know it will not be active but I need to see if the coin comparator is getting power  what is the proper way of doing it so i don't mess anything else up

Thanks for you time

Lyzard

[4 Deuces]

Cleaning vs. replacing is a personal choice ... I've done both.  At first, I wanted the original buttons, but after getting new, I really like the new ones better.  You can disassemble and reassemble them successfully so long as you're careful and don't break any of the tiny plastic legs.  I've done it, but I've also broken some.  You could try cleaning and resort to replacing if necessary.  You don't have to take them apart to clean.

To check the power to your coin comparitor, one way is to use the SELF-TESTS OUTPUT screen.
Press the White Test button twice to get to the OUTPUT screen.
With the arrow next to COIN LOCKOUT, turn the Jackpot Reset key.  A tiny light (red or green) should light up on the comparitor.
Then, press the DEAL button once to place the arrow next to DIVERTER.
Again, turn the Jackpot Reset key and the rake on the comparitor should open.

I'm not the expert, just another slot enthusiasts.  Hope this helps!  :Dave

[4 Deuces]

I should add that I've personally found the originals to have a tighter cap, meaning, there's less play at the top of the button.  The newer buttons are a little more looser.  You can put your finger on the top of the button and move it side-to-side.  So, from a "fast play" perspective (because I play poker like a lunatic playing a Liszt concerto), the older buttons respond a little better (to me).

[jay]

Using a small flat head I can usually pop the clear bezils caps off with a 85% success rate.
While the caps can clean up nice (splilled drinks, tobacco smoke and who knows what else - eww)
I find that many are brittle and the legends underneath are yellowed - both due to the heat.

May I suggest that you invest in new legends as well as swapping out the lights for their LED equivelents that give off almost no heat.
If you like that dimmer yellower look you can achive it by getting some see-thru yellow or orange plastic from a scrap booking store.
Cut yourself a square and put this under the legend. It dims and yellows (softens) the light.

Many of the vendors on this site can supply you with old or new buttons, Leds and such.

[Lyzard]

Thank you for the info Jay will defintly consider getting new ones and will want to change lighting to led if possible is there a conversion for the top and the side panels I have a Slant top Poker machine and the light that is on the door next to the monitor does not come on so i think it is blown out I have tried to replace the bulb starter and balist to no avail so a thinking it needs a new base and the leds as you said would be cooler Temp wise

I am not consered with the old yellow look anyway but I do want the buttons and all to light and I know that there is at least one button light that doesn't come on one of the Hold/Cancel buttons

so replacements are a for sure

[Lyzard]

  got to thinking

I need to replace some bulbs in my machine Florecent and button bulbs blown out

Is it possible to replace them with led's or would that be a waist of time I think it would be better in the long run more energy efficient and less heat output but I don't see any conversions out there

are there have I just missed them would like to replace all the bulbs with led's some that i have still work some don't but I thought if i was going to convert might as well go all the way

Is this possible and if so would someone point me in the right direction

Thanks for you time and info.

Lyzard