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« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2012, 05:24:06 AM »

  OK here is a question that I thought I would ask is there a way to test the bill validator and coin Comparator to see if they function properly outside of a machine like on a workbench

if there is would someone give me instructions on how to do this also would like to check the transport and Cash can to see if they work

 is there special equipment needed

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« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2012, 07:36:15 PM »

I have put LEDs in my PE+ buttons -- they look great, and you don't have to worry about them burning out again. 

I looked in my machine, and they're the same bulbs as the S+ shadow box bulbs for the 3 and 5-line games, but none of the darn bulbs have any labeling on them.  Let me dig around the site and see if I can find where I posted about them before...

Edit: Found it!  Here's the post:

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=2485.msg73079#msg73079

For the PE+ buttons (and the S+ 3 and 5-line stepper box), use a #86.  I bought the #86 White W1 1LED Round Frosted Lens from http://bcspinball.com/ , although it looks like their website is acting a little funky right now.  You could always try calling them, or try a different supplier.
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« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2012, 11:29:53 PM »

  I have a bunch of extry Led's from a Mame cabinet build was wondering what the voltage on the stot bulbs are

Have lots of colors of them

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« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2012, 01:22:34 AM »

  I have a bunch of extry Led's from a Mame cabinet build was wondering what the voltage on the stot bulbs are

It depends on the machine and the application within the machine.  The #86 bulb used in the PE+ machines are 6.3 volt bulbs with a T-1 and 3/4 base.
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« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2012, 02:07:45 AM »

ok here is my thought was going to use one of these bulbs to replace bulbs in buttons and an led stip of lights to replace the ones behind the glass

found these online and am wondering if they would just plug into the bases that are already there or do i need change the base to be able to use led's


http://www.1000bulbzone.com/product/6-3-volt-t1-34-wedge-base-led-light-bulb-0-12-watt-color-white/

or maybe these

http://pearlandlighting.com/proddetail.php?prod=LM0506WB-WW

for the glass I thought of a Marquee light from and Arcade machine I have some that are 12v Dc will they work or do I need a different kind

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« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2012, 07:13:34 AM »

The wedge bulbs you linked to will work and will go right into the sockets with no modifications, but $6/bulb is highway robbery. The ones I got from BCSPinball.com were $1/each.

As far as for the glass, do you just need a replacement fluorescent tube? That would be the easiest and cheapest way to go rather than reinventing the wheel.
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« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2012, 07:25:55 AM »

OK will go to the site you suggested and get the button replacement bulbs

as far as the other lights i need a new florescent Assembly for the panel that is next to the monitor

I tested the starter and it works also the florescent in the top next to the BV works fine

When I opened the door I noticed that the assembly in the Hatch (Light) was held together with Black Electricians tape and the bulb is black on one end

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« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2012, 04:36:29 AM »

  I thought I would give everyone a update I will be ordering a replacement monitor for my machine on Mon. for about $160 + shipping will come to over $250 is this a good price can't do any other tests tell i get the monitor so that I know what is going on Error codes and such

If you know of one cheaper that works please let me know

Otherwise I will let everyone know when it arrives

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« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2012, 11:57:19 AM »

Have you tried posting in the classifieds section here for a monitor? That seems kind of spendy to me, but I'm also spoiled to be in a legal state with fairly easy access to machine suppliers.
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« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2012, 11:00:43 PM »

  Ok ordered new Monitor

I got to thinking the machine has 5 poker games on it but i was wondering if there is some way to put a slot machine game on it

If it is a chip or something is there any avail.

I guess it would have to be a video slot game but that would be ok

if not it is ok but was just wondering

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« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2012, 12:54:10 AM »

Ok anyone out there from Worldwide Gaming   

Dear Tech Person
I ordered one of the IGT 13" monitor for the Slant top 

I do have a few issues with it

First off installed it with no prob. and turned on machine monitor came on but the screen is dim better than the one i had but still dim

the other issue i have it that there is Diag. lines running through it and the screen has a Green tint to it

what are my options is there a way to fix this prob. or do I have to send the monitor back

@ a price tag of $249 including shipping is kinda expensive for a monitor that don't work properly

Do I have any remedies

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« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2012, 01:08:44 AM »

Boy, I'd be pissed.  I don't think WWG is very popular around these parts.

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« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2012, 01:17:07 AM »

is it possible to swap out the chassis and the tube the one that I had before had a great picture but the video ic chip failed or at least that is what the tv repair man told me

If it is possible I might be able to make one good one out of the 2

Any thoughts


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« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2012, 01:40:34 AM »

Per your question about slots....
I have Double Diamond, Red White and Blue, River Gambler - for the PE+
My largest complaint is that there is no on-screen paytable, next is the SLOW way the reels run, and finally I have no nudge games like Double Diamond Deluxe or Haywire.

With the poker games you can choose the speed of deal and on some whether you want the onscreen paytable, not so on the slot games.
The RWB also has a bug in it. I have set progressive for 1 level and it automatically turns on two levels of progressive.

I would push WWG to make the monitor right rather than ending up with a bucket of parts.
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« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2012, 01:45:38 AM »

Fully agree with jay about the WWG issue.

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« Reply #40 on: October 04, 2012, 01:48:57 AM »

I have sent WWG an email will see if they reply

as to Jay is it possible to install the slot games on a machine with poker games can play 5 different poker games now  but wouldn't mine giving one up for a slot game

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« Reply #41 on: October 04, 2012, 02:22:20 AM »

  Also I can see the screen when i do turn it one and I made out that there is a coin in timeout error how do I clear this error

i have pushed the Test button and closed the hatch and the error will not clear

Help please

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« Reply #42 on: October 04, 2012, 03:09:11 AM »

Lets start off at the basics:
On the PE+ with a super board you have a Program Chip, Data Chip, MGO, MXO, MRO, MBO and a CapXrom.
The M?O and the CapXrom control the graphics.
The Superboards are typically green in color.

There is also an older board (not super board) that uses a data Chip, MGO, MXO, MRO, MBO and a Caprom.
Please note the Caprom (with out the X) and no program chip.
These boards are typically brown in color.

You can play any of the older games normally used on the brown board (ie BlackJack) on the Superboard - you simply leave the Progran Chip slot open without a chip.

The mutigame sets only work with a Superboard ..... so I am pretty certain that you have a superboard.

There are two ways your machine can play 5 games:

1. There are two different sets of Multi-Game Poker which use a multigame data and program chip set.
2. There is also a wing board that plugs in and you actually use 5 different program chips that share a common M?O, CapXrom and Data chip.

The most common CapXrom is the x731 or x1331 for poker games so with reference to #2 it is pretty easy to find 5 games that share the same CapXrom and other graphics chips.

The 3 slot games that I have do not share a common CapXrom nor are they same as the poker chips so they can not be combined like the poker assuming you have a daughter board.

With these games there are up to 7 chips. I hate changing the chips as regardless of how careful you are there is always potential to bend a leg. I have countered this and have 5 boards. 3 Super, 2 old.
I change the boards out between my favoriate games and keep one for playing with chipsets.

The other option you have is to get a set of ZIFF sockets. (Ziff = Zero Insertion Force). When you buy a ziff socket they come with long leggs - you cut them to a reasonable length (similar to a chip) and simply plug them into your board. The ziff socket has a little leaver on it that lets a chip drop in with no friction and then you just put the leaver back in place to secure it. The ziff socket may not sit tight in the chip socket so once you know they are working well just put a drop of super glue on the ziff socket and permanently attach to the existing socket.

With respect to your coin error - Open the Door, press and hold the self-test button for 5 seconds, next turn the jackpot reset key in the side, close the door and the error should be cleared.


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« Reply #43 on: October 04, 2012, 03:10:37 AM »

See this post regarding Ziff sockets
http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=249.0
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« Reply #44 on: October 04, 2012, 03:13:47 AM »

Here is a great post on the wing board that allows you to use any five games that share a common program chip, and graphics

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=1392.0
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« Reply #45 on: October 04, 2012, 03:20:05 AM »

Finally I forgot to mention that CapRoms are a very very old chip. They are not even making blanks for them anymore and most eprom programmers don't write to them.

Some of the smart people on this forum came up with a Caprom adapter that allows you to use a common chip like the 27c64

Here is the post to the schematic if you decide to get brave and build one.
http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=1391.0

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« Reply #46 on: October 04, 2012, 05:07:08 AM »

 Update:

I left the machine on to go have supper and when I got back the screen had cleared but still had a little of the darkness to it but was very playable

the issue now is that I can't get rid of the Coin in time out error

I tried the steps above and it will not clear

I have noticed that the monitor has went from bad to good and after some time it goes bad again and then clears up maybe it will clear itself eventually ( I HOPE)

I have Taken some pic's of the Screen when bad and when good also of the status screens that i have been able to get to I have gotten to the menu screen that allows me to change games but i don't think i can get there again till i clear this error

please help

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« Reply #47 on: October 04, 2012, 05:10:00 AM »

here are some more pic's

test button pushed and get these

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« Reply #48 on: October 04, 2012, 05:14:42 AM »

ok and yes when the door is closed the Open door goes away but the coin in time out stays



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« Reply #49 on: October 04, 2012, 05:17:49 AM »

  also i noticed that there is a message above the cards on the left that says

Closer Restart and on the right side of the screen on the same line is says 5 not sure why they are there or what they mean but I noticed them in the picture after I posted

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