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« on: September 30, 2012, 04:39:29 PM »
Is there a way to increase the winning odds on an IGT S-Plus, SP1271, Red, White and Blue?  My mother-in-law is coming for another visit and she loves playing and more importantly, winning!  She is 84 and it is truly the highlight of her trip....yes, even more than seeing me!  I have heard of "looser" slots but am not sure how to make the adjustment.  You all were so helpful to me before, changing out my game prom, setting it up etc. and I really appreciate all your help.  Thank you in advance!
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2012, 04:51:39 PM »
yes you can by changing the ss chip the 3cm rwd ss4090 or ss4089 2cm is the highest payout just ask 1 of the venders or put a wtb in the classifieds
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2012, 06:11:57 PM »
Hold the phone -- don't go buying those chips just yet.

According to sbs' previous posts, he she has a 3CM 4th of July game (not RWB) running SS4164.

The SS4164 chip has a 92.6% payback (meaning that the "house" wins 7.4% over the long term.  The best chip created for that machine is a SS4511 (as seen here), which has a 97.9% long term payback (2.1% house hold).

Keep in mind, however, those payback percentages are over the long term.  You very well might not see any noticeable difference between the two chips when you play, unless you're playing thousands of spins at a time.  That said, if you want to upgrade to the best paying chip, place an ad in the classifieds section of the site (here) and a vendor or another member who has that chip should be able to sell it to you.
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2012, 08:13:18 PM »
Quote from: knagl on September 30, 2012, 06:11:57 PM
Hold the phone -- don't go buying those chips just yet.

According to sbs' previous posts, he has a 3CM 4th of July game (not RWB) running SS4164.

The SS4164 chip has a 92.6% payback (meaning that the "house" wins 7.4% over the long term.  The best chip created for that machine is a SS4511 (as seen here), which has a 97.9% long term payback (2.1% house hold).

Keep in mind, however, those payback percentages are over the long term.  You very well might not see any noticeable difference between the two chips when you play, unless you're playing thousands of spins at a time.  That said, if you want to upgrade to the best paying chip, place an ad in the classifieds section of the site (here) and a vendor or another member who has that chip should be able to sell it to you.

sorry didnt see the other post.I should just leave these to the pros here
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2012, 08:29:10 PM »
Kevin  I'm lost !!!  I have a SS4162 I can send her.  97,4 %
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2012, 09:38:11 PM »
Quote from: Buzz on September 30, 2012, 08:29:10 PM
Kevin  I'm lost !!!  I have a SS4162 I can send her.  97,4 %

Why are you lost?  That sounds great. My point was that over 100 spins with a 93% chip or 100 spins with a 97% chip, you won't see much of a difference.
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2012, 11:08:06 PM »
The part I'm lost is what game theme she has. You know the second machine I ever bought was a 4th Of July  S+, my wife still has it. I don't remember it being all that bad of a paying machine. Now if this Lady will come over to my house and play one of the Big Time Pays, or Tabasco, and don't forget Crystal 5s she will find out what a NO paying machine is all about. Just those 3 make me glad I don't play slot machines. 
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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2012, 12:21:58 AM »
Quote from: sbs on September 30, 2012, 04:39:29 PM
Is there a way to increase the winning odds on an IGT S-Plus, SP1271, Red, White and Blue?  My mother-in-law is coming for another visit and she loves playing and more importantly, winning!  She is 84 and it is truly the highlight of her trip....yes, even more than seeing me!  I have heard of "looser" slots but am not sure how to make the adjustment.  You all were so helpful to me before, changing out my game prom, setting it up etc. and I really appreciate all your help.  Thank you in advance!

Yes.. If  you have a rwb then run tournament chips for her..she will have a blast!!! 2000% payback on some..she will see the big wins..all in tournament play.. You controll the coin or time limit of play.. Contact me if you need more detail or a set of the chips with instructions.
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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2012, 12:54:18 AM »
That sounds exactly what the son needs for his mom fav game!
Excellent suggestion coors!  yes
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« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2012, 09:38:10 AM »
knagl - will the tournament chips coors talks about work with my machine?  As I am sure you are aware, you know way more about my machine than I do!!  I am so grateful!
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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2012, 11:50:01 AM »
You might want to check this list out SBS.  yes
The ST Tournament chips you need must match your reel strips' paytable of 104A, or SS equivalent.

I'm attaching a link to it for you here...>>>

http://www.newlifegames.net/igtbible/IGT%20Tourney/Game%20Library%20-%20S-Plus%20-%20Tournament.htm
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« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2012, 02:08:31 PM »
Quote from: sbs on October 01, 2012, 09:38:10 AM
knagl - will the tournament chips coors talks about work with my machine?  As I am sure you are aware, you know way more about my machine than I do!!  I am so grateful!

Is it a RWB or a 4th of July?  Different games completly, I have the chips for RWB but they did not make them for 4th of July.
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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2012, 03:04:14 PM »
In Reply #2, Knagl notes that she has a 4th Of July game...
No tournament chips are available for that game I'm afraid.  no
Definitely wrong strips and paytable award glass.
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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2012, 03:22:42 PM »
put one in any way and call it double triple mystery pay with cheese  Silly Me!
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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2012, 03:02:53 AM »
According to her previous post, sbs has a 4th of July game, which could easily be mistaken for a Red, White, and Blue machine to the average person.

sbs: Do some of the "bar" symbols on your reel strips have rockets/missles that cause them to nudge up or down if they land above or below the payline? If so, that pretty much confirms you have the 4th of July game, which did not have tournament chips created for it.
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« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2012, 03:12:54 PM »
Very close

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« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2012, 08:41:31 PM »
Quote from: knagl on October 02, 2012, 03:02:53 AM
According to her previous post, sbs has a 4th of July game, which could easily be mistaken for a Red, White, and Blue machine to the average person.

sbs: Do some of the "bar" symbols on your reel strips have rockets/missles that cause them to nudge up or down if they land above or below the payline? If so, that pretty much confirms you have the 4th of July game, which did not have tournament chips created for it.
The BIG give away would be the 4th of July symbol on the third reel strip.
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« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2012, 09:13:36 PM »
Yes it would

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« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2012, 05:13:39 PM »
Quote from: knagl on October 02, 2012, 03:02:53 AM
According to her previous post, sbs has a 4th of July game, which could easily be mistaken for a Red, White, and Blue machine to the average person.

sbs: Do some of the "bar" symbols on your reel strips have rockets/missles that cause them to nudge up or down if they land above or below the payline? If so, that pretty much confirms you have the 4th of July game, which did not have tournament chips created for it.

Yes, it does and it is the 4th of July game.  Sorry for the confusion....excuse - old ladyism!  Thank you so much for all your help.
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« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2013, 01:56:05 PM »
I know its bringing this back from the dead BUT how can I change my S+ to pay out the least? Also where on the board will I find out what chip I already have?
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« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2013, 02:03:41 PM »
Go to this link...>>>


http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/SPSS.htm
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