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« on: September 05, 2013, 02:34:55 PM »

Does anyone know off-hand if reels for an Alpha slant/sit-down are different than an upright?

We are having a payout problem that looks to be related to the alignment of the 2nd reel. Similar to what occurs in IGT machines when slant top reels are in an upright machine.  Upon inspection  Sherlock Smiley Sherlock Smiley, reel 2 is different. I don't know if its just a different year or revision, or if it is perhaps from a slant.

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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2013, 09:40:17 PM »

Can't you do a reel test under diagonostics and confirm the feel positions?
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2013, 09:55:31 PM »

Can't you do a reel test under diagonostics and confirm the feel positions?
Agree with Post Agree with Post
Also , my sit down has wider reels then upright.
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2013, 10:33:40 PM »

a slant would have a pay line in a different spot then a reg upright  aren,t the slant top reels on a tilted shelve?
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2013, 10:39:06 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2013, 10:43:35 PM »

side by side. Sit down reel supports are straight up & down


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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2013, 11:45:25 PM »

Can't you do a reel test under diagonostics and confirm the feel positions?

The machine is a customers machine. We never noticed anything out of whack, but didnt play it all that much. I have some pics to support the wacky pays. Let me see if I can get them uploaded here. Hopefully you guys can see something I'm missing.

I believe the reel in question has a slight alignment issue. The reel strip sits about 1/4" lower than the other reels/reel strips do, but I'm not sure this is causing all the screwy pays.
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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2013, 11:50:17 PM »

Can't you do a reel test under diagonostics and confirm the feel positions?
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Also , my sit down has wider reels then upright.

Ok, then they can't be slant reels....cross that off the list.

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a slant would have a pay line in a different spot then a reg upright  aren,t the slant top reels on a tilted shelve?

I was wondering because of the wacky pays...
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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2013, 11:54:54 PM »

Are you sure the strips are on correct reels? Correct order.
Did you do a reel alignment? When you do the reels on screen & reels should have same symbols.
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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2013, 01:07:21 AM »

Machine is not here....can't do reel alignment. Well, without walking someone through it over the phone. Will do it if I have to.

Let me check my pics and check the reel strip order! I like that one!

Sorry, we were moving some games around (well, Darrell was, I was standing in the way, as always) and now it's dinner time. I'll get the pics for you guys ASAP.

Thanks!  Hail Hail Hail

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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2013, 02:31:14 PM »

i have a problem with that king of stuff too
i just buy a game kit on internet and they not told me it s for a slant alpha
so i try to put game card in my machine it work the only problem is when i try to configure the progressive jackpot
i try a lot of time and when i press save the machine reset itself
the game is double wild rose with power up progressice
any idea someone ?
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2013, 04:26:32 PM »

i have a problem with that king of stuff too
i just buy a game kit on internet and they not told me it s for a slant alpha
so i try to put game card in my machine it work the only problem is when i try to configure the progressive jackpot
i try a lot of time and when i press save the machine reset itself
the game is double wild rose with power up progressice
any idea someone ?



If you are looking for amount for jackpot try
$4 - $8 - $20 - $40 - $80 - $700 - $ 2000
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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2013, 06:38:53 PM »

Let me know the full title and the game software version

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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2013, 06:44:30 PM »

Fantilusion, you emailed me about only 3 reels spinning. Do this & 5 should work.
For your reels
turn key on side
go into diagnostics in menu
game diagnostics
reels
That should make all 5 reels work


DISREGARD - i UNDERSTOOD YOU HAD A 5 REEL GAME.
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2013, 06:53:31 PM »

Double Wild Rose Power Progressive

3 Reels, 27 Lines, 270 Credits Max Bet
• Configurable Lines: 3, 5, 9, 10, 15, 20, 25, 27
• Configurable Credits: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10
• Single Denomination
Denominations Available: 1¢, 2¢, 3¢, 5¢, 10¢, 15¢, 20¢, 25¢, 50¢,
$1, $2, $5
• Recommended Configuration
25 Lines, 5 Credits per Line, 125 Credits Max Bet, 1¢
• Progressive Options
– Internal/External Seven Level Progressive
° Level 1 2,000 ° Level 2 700
° Level 3 80 ° Level 4 40
° Level 5 20 ° Level 6 8
° Level 7 4
*Total Bet × Denomination
– The Level 1 Award occurs every 222,566 plays.
• Mystery Multiplier
– The Mystery Multiplier symbol multiplies the winning combination from 2×−10×.
• Power Progressives Bonus Feature (with max bet)
– When three Bonus Feature symbols appear in the window, one of the following three Features is triggered:
° Power Grid — Players start with three picks and choose tiles. They may accumulate credits, move up a Progressive Level or obtain extra credits. When no picks remain, the player receives the sum of the credits plus the Progressive Level.
° Power Switch — A board of six tiles will be shown and the player chooses a tile. They reveal a Move Up or Collect. If they reveal a Move Up, another board will appear and they continue playing until Collect appears or they may choose to Move Up and Collect Now
° Power Spin — The player will collect the final Progressive Level that was achieved by the spinning of a virtual reel.
– A Bonus Feature occurs on average every 64 plays.
• Overall Hit Frequency: Five &Ten Times 38.12%
Double Wild Rose 32.49%
Rich & Famous 32.55
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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2013, 08:01:24 AM »

here is my game card and other picture

and my machine is a bally alpha s9000 upright

i buy a game kit but they don't told me it's for a slant  slot

it's a 1 line game wild rose power progressive

3credit max per line

and demon possible start at 0,20 cts
after i have 0,25$
0,50$ 1$ 2$ 5$ 10$ 20$ 25$ 50$


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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2013, 08:02:14 AM »

other pictures


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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2013, 08:03:20 AM »

other one


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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2013, 08:04:15 AM »

other


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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2013, 08:05:11 AM »

the last one


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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2013, 08:15:02 AM »

Game must be set as a Single denomination, for the Progressive

Progressive Options
– Internal/External Seven Level Progressive
° Level 1 2,000 ° Level 2 700
° Level 3 80 ° Level 4 40
° Level 5 20 ° Level 6 8
° Level 7 4
*Total Bet × Denomination

So level 1 would be 2000 X Denomination X Max Bet

Example would be 2000 X .01 X 125 = $2500
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« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2013, 08:30:22 AM »

Game must be set as a Single denomination, for the Progressive

Progressive Options
– Internal/External Seven Level Progressive
° Level 1 2,000 ° Level 2 700
° Level 3 80 ° Level 4 40
° Level 5 20 ° Level 6 8
° Level 7 4
*Total Bet × Denomination

So level 1 would be 2000 X Denomination X Max Bet

Example would be 2000 X .01 X 125 = $2500
i alway put single denom
so for me level 1:
0,20cts cause i cant put less
2000X0,20X3*= 1200$
3 it max credit per ligne
or
2000X0,20X0,6*=240
0,6 it 0,2cts X 3 credit per ligne
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« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2013, 09:03:36 AM »

2000 X .20 X 3 = 1200
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« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2013, 09:10:34 AM »

here is what append when i put all the value and the 3 reel turn i turn the rest key and the machine restart


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« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2013, 09:19:22 AM »

Give me a little time, the information that I have is for the -00 program you have the -01 program which is not an adjustable game, so we need to check some things out

will be back ASAP

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