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« Reply #50 on: February 19, 2014, 11:07:37 PM »

777sizzler is correct (ouch, that hurt, lol) in saying it is IMPOSSIBLE to CALCULATE, but it is not impossible to GUESS. Think of it kinda like guessing the number of jelly beans in a jar (you don't know if there's paper wadded up inside the column of jelly beans or not, do all the math you want).

Good, friendly fun...but WOW, check out your guys' minds in action! Some smart cookies!  Big Cookie Big Cookie Big Cookie
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« Reply #51 on: February 19, 2014, 11:11:14 PM »

Active topic.

My guess is slow.  Nerd        256 rpm's.       yes That may be 3-5 MPH.

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« Reply #52 on: February 19, 2014, 11:17:39 PM »

OK, New guess ... 12 RPM!   Large Reels - 5 seconds per revolution.

12 already guessed, so let's' go with 15 RPM.   . ... That's the ticket!  yes
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« Reply #53 on: February 19, 2014, 11:26:04 PM »

450rpm
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« Reply #54 on: February 19, 2014, 11:39:03 PM »

This is good one!  yes  Where did you find this question?  Weird Eyes
As 777 says, you need motor rpm, drive gear and reel gear dimentions for an exact answer. The net says the Big Bertha was invented in 1931. Has 21 inch reels chain driven by a 5hp motor.

Ok, I'm guessing 30 rpms.
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« Reply #55 on: February 19, 2014, 11:46:37 PM »

A little more math.
I image that each reel is about 36 inched in diameter.
36 X Pi (3.14159) is = 113.09 inches of reel tape
Multiply that times lets say 40 revolutions per minute = 4523.8896 inches of reel tape each minute
that's the same as 376.9908feet of reel tape per minute. Or divide by 60 =  6.28318 feet of reel tape each second!

Now I'm telling you id you are looking a symbols a foot away and tape is passing by at the rate of 6.28318 ft per second you won't see a thing. The human eye will only see a blur.

So 40 RPM is too fast.  arrow
Remember this is for the early Big Bertha's, not the Clossal Slots you see today. What I find is the Big Bertha's have 21 inch reels x 3.14 = 69.94" length of reel tape.
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« Reply #56 on: February 20, 2014, 12:00:16 AM »

Well,  At least it is early in this game with the 7-day cut-off.  That being said I am sure someone will get this one.  Just do not have what is needed or time to research.  Kudos to CVslots for the perplexing question.  I hope the answer is correct as there are engineers, doctors, lawyers, fbi, police, architects you name it trying to crack this. -- +1 (Karma, or whatever).
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« Reply #57 on: February 20, 2014, 12:36:25 AM »

Well,  At least it is early in this game with the 7-day cut-off.  That being said I am sure someone will get this one.  Just do not have what is needed or time to research.  Kudos to CVslots for the perplexing question.  I hope the answer is correct as there are engineers, doctors, lawyers, fbi, police, architects you name it trying to crack this. -- +1 (Karma, or whatever).

I was thinking the same thing after reading all of this. I have the PM'd answer but have no way of knowing whether it's accurate.  arrow
 Professor Still, keep in mind that this is supposed to be light trivia; it's not the $64,000 question.
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« Reply #58 on: February 20, 2014, 12:44:52 AM »

Ok,  Last shot  6400 rpm. 
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« Reply #59 on: February 20, 2014, 12:52:13 AM »

Remember this is for the early Big Bertha's, not the Clossal Slots you see today. What I find is the Big Bertha's have 21 inch reels x 3.14 = 69.94" length of reel tape.
Good clue Uniman.... I missed that one.  Clap
So with the new diameter and using the 40 RPM's were now at 3.88888 ft per second OR another way of looking at it the outer drum would be spinning at 2.645455 MPH

So if I take my low-rider with 21 inch wheels on it and drive past you at 2.5 MPH can you read the letters on the wheels?  no  Cry Laughing

PS 777,
That 45 RPM record that you mentioned, your reading that song title at 3 inches from the center. Not 10 1/2 inches (21" diameter) from the center.
A lot more surface (speed) at the outer edge than the center where the label to a record is printed.



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One last thing. There is a reason that a locomotive used a diesel motor to drive a generator to power the electric motors for the drive wheels.
It's torque. More torque in an electric motor so you don't need as much HP.
Electric motor = constant speed with load, where a diesel or gas the torque varies with RPM.
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« Reply #60 on: February 20, 2014, 01:02:33 AM »

More speed at center.  It is, where the drive is at-not outer edge.  Check it out.   So center is center-yes.   I change to 640 rpms now.  --Good nite all  It is a fun, hard to figure out answer.-- chug magic.
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« Reply #61 on: February 20, 2014, 01:07:49 AM »

More speed at center.  It is, where the drive is at-not outer edge.  Check it out.   So center is center-yes.   I change to 640 rpms now.  
No, More speed at the outer edge because it's the same RPM but the outer edge is a bigger diameter.
Think of it this way. If I turn a car tire at 10 RPM's One is a Smart car with 11 inch wheels the other is a P/U truck with 30 inch mud tires. Which one will be traveling forward faster?
Both axles are turning at 10 RPM's


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« Reply #62 on: February 20, 2014, 01:18:26 AM »

the one with the 30 inch its going faster !!! Cheesy
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« Reply #63 on: February 20, 2014, 01:29:40 AM »


Roz,,
Are we having fun yet??? stir the pot / get cooking


Oh yah....this is what trivia should be! What fun would it be if we didnt get to come together and think things out?  We are upping the bar a tad this year...well, hopefully!
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« Reply #64 on: February 20, 2014, 02:24:01 AM »

1.5 RPMs
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« Reply #65 on: February 20, 2014, 02:33:45 AM »

11 RPM !!!!
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« Reply #66 on: February 20, 2014, 02:42:30 AM »

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« Reply #67 on: February 20, 2014, 02:50:55 AM »

... I change to 640 rpms now. ...
1.5 RPMs

Wow, what a range of guesses!!
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« Reply #68 on: February 20, 2014, 09:15:07 AM »

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« Reply #69 on: February 20, 2014, 10:33:28 AM »

220 RPM's
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« Reply #70 on: February 20, 2014, 01:11:19 PM »

300 RPM
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« Reply #71 on: February 20, 2014, 03:28:36 PM »

I'll guess 20 RPMs.
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« Reply #72 on: February 20, 2014, 03:50:21 PM »

I'll guess 120 RPM

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« Reply #73 on: February 20, 2014, 04:25:43 PM »

777 on principle alone... no scientific backing...  bust gut laughing
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« Reply #74 on: February 20, 2014, 05:00:38 PM »

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