65-4 error code ?

[rickhunter]

SET086 supports setting token values, the other ones you listed do not.  There's another SET chip that also support token values, I think it's  58, but I'm not 100% sure as I don't have that PSR.  The 1137/086 is the set I have personally tested, so I cannot verify 1st hand the use of others.

[knagl]

Did you ever try pressing cash out again after the first payout?

I did, and nothing happened.  I even tried the jackpot reset key for kicks and it just entered its typical accounting/whatever mode.  I could never get it to lockup for a handpay with a partial token value.  The only way I found I could get rid of the credits was to play them off.

[StatFreak]

The PSR isn't much help. I've never played with one of these SP chips, but it looks like one has to select "Token credit" (option 7 in selection <0>[5]) to get tokenization. It's not really clear.

I'm going to have to put this chip through its paces one of these days and see just what it will and will not do in these various mode combinations.

Token Value
Selection <0> [15]   Tokens can be set to a value between 2 and 99 credits.  Credits window = token value.  Press the Spin Reels button to step through token values.  Turn the jackpot reset key to select a value.
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Selection <0> [5]   The credit type can not be changed if credits are accumulated or if the tournament option is enabled.  Options are Standard Euro credit {1}, Euro noncredit {2}, Nevada-style credit {3}, Nevada-style noncredit {4}, Lottery-style credit {5}, Semi-Euro credit {6}, Token credit {7}, or Semi-Euro credit II {8}.
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Display <0> [15]   This page is not displayed if the tournament option is enabled.  If the credit type is Token, {1} appears in the Winner Paid window and the token value is shown in the Credits window.  The set chip is required to modify the token value.
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Credit Limit
Selection <0> [3]   This page is displayed only if the credit type selected is Standard Euro credit, Euro noncredit, Semi-Euro credit, Semi-Euro credit II, or Lottery-style credit.  Determines the amount of credits that can be accumulated before winning amounts are paid by the hopper.  If set at 0000, the limit automatically defaults to the highest nonprogressive win amount in the paytable.

Credit Limit
Default <0> [3]   This page is displayed only if the credit limit is set at 0000.  Displays the default credit limit.

[knagl]

it looks like one has to select "Token credit" (option 7 in selection <0>[5]) to get tokenization. It's not really clear.

You are correct sir.  You set the token value (in my "penny machine" for a quarter example I used "25"), and then set the credit type to Token Credit.

[StatFreak]

it looks like one has to select "Token credit" (option 7 in selection <0>[5]) to get tokenization. It's not really clear.

You are correct sir.  You set the token value (in my "penny machine" for a quarter example I used "25"), and then set the credit type to Token Credit.

Do you know the differences between these?
Standard Euro credit, Euro noncredit, Nevada-style credit (I assume that this is the "normal" mode that other chips have), Nevada-style noncredit, Lottery-style credit, Semi-Euro credit, and Semi-Euro credit II. (Is that the sequel? ..because I heard that the first movie sucked! )

Have you ever tried entering a country code other than US 37 to see how it affects these modes and bill acceptance?

[knagl]

It's been about a year since I tinkered with that machine and the 1137, so my memory is hazy.  I know at least one of the other settings permitted it to just accept coins at one coin = one credit.  Beyond that, though, I'm not sure how much I tinkered with those settings (as my goal was to tokenize it to make it a penny machine).  I also had a tournament chip installed so the new owner could play in tournament mode or standard coin-in coin-out mode.

Finally, if I recall correctly, I was not able to select anything other than 37, at least using the set chip I had (I remember trying for kicks).  I don't know if different set chips enable different country codes?

[StatFreak]

Thanks.    One of these days I'll have to experiment.    

[knagl]

I just came across this in a different thread -- it was originally posted by Ozzy III on the old site, and offers some explanation of the different credit type settings:

Standard Euro Credit
Coins to game first then extra coins to credit

Euro Non Credit
Seems to be same as above

Nevada Style Credit
Max coin only and wins paid from hopper

Loto Style Credit
All coins to credit

Semi Euro Credit
Max coin only, wins to credit

Token Credit
Think it's an option when machine is tokenized, did not check as option does not show in setup {7}

Semi Euro II
Max coin then extra to credit


cheers

[nilgaming]

thx !
 

[StatFreak]

Good find. There seems to be a bit of duplication in the settings.

[onesell]

Hi guys just been reading this so thought i would let you know how i do it and what i use.
1.   Turn Machine Off.

2.   Remove the GAME Board

3.   Locate and remove the SP (Game chip)

4.   Fit an SP1003

5.   Move the jumper just above the SP chip from E16 to E15 if needed

6.   Place the GAME  board back into the machine and Power ON

7.   Error code 61 appears, press and hold the test button to clear it the machine should start up

8.   Turn Machine Off.

9.   Remove the GAME Board

10.   Remove the SP (Game chip)

11.   Fit the SET 19 chip in place of the SP *ensure the grove is facing the correct way*

12.   Place the GAME  board back into the machine and Power ON

13.   With the door open press the test switch once which will take you into the Token Value Selection Menu :-
Winner Paid window shows ‘15’

14.   In credit window digit will be flashing. Press the Spin Reel button to scroll through numbers 0-9. Turn the reset key to alternate between the 2 digits to set the value required.
In this case 25

15.   Press the TEST switch repeatedly to scroll to the end of the menus to save the settings. A small chime should ring.

16.   Power down and remove the GAME board.

17.   Remove the SET chip and fit the SP1003 chip.

18.   Place GAME board back in the machine, and Power ON.

19.   Error code 61 appears, press and hold the test button to clear it.

20.   With the Door open press the test switch button 3 times to view the Credit Type Menu. In the Winner Paid window it should read ‘5     0’  we want this to read ‘ 5   7 (token
credit). To change this press the Spin Reels button, then repeatedly press the test button to scroll through the menus to save the settings.

21.   Close the door.

22.   Machine should now be Setup to give the player 25 credits per coin.

[nilgaming]

thx !!! 

[rickhunter]

For the record euro-style credits allow you to feed the machine coins past the max bet, the extra coins go to credit.  On nevada style credits, the slot locks out any further coins and the diverter then dumps extra coins to the tray.

[stayouttadabunker]

I really like the "euro-credit" option chip SP1137...
I just keep feeding the crap outta my S+ 'till I run outta coins
(It's an excellent way to test the coin comparitor)
and run the machine on "Auto-Pilot" for testing purposes...LOL

[Ron (r273)]

I really like the "euro-credit" option chip SP1137...
I just keep feeding the crap outta my S+ 'till I run outta coins
(It's an excellent way to test the coin comparitor)
and run the machine on "Auto-Pilot" for testing purposes...LOL

That's whats nice about an S-2000, you can change it in the options menu.

Ron