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« on: September 30, 2008, 07:36:06 PM »

Why are the members email addresses visible when you mouse over the envelope icon?  They also show up in the HTML, which means they will end up on spammer's mailing lists.  Well, already have is more like it.  I can Google for the posts I made two days ago, so I know the email addresses went somewhere too.  Doh!

Even if I am not logged in, you can still see the email addresses.
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2008, 07:36:24 PM »

You have the option of hiding your email address in your profile.

But it does make it hard to spam send you things.....
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2008, 07:36:55 PM »

Why are the members email addresses visible when you mouse over the envelope icon?  They also show up in the HTML, which means they will end up on spammer's mailing lists.  Well, already have is more like it.  I can Google for the posts I made two days ago, so I know the email addresses went somewhere too.  Doh!

Even if I am not logged in, you can still see the email addresses.

I would think and expect a free e-mail account like g-mail, hotmail, & etc would be inundated with spam and viruses Duh! hissy fit yes loser kilroy
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2008, 07:37:06 PM »

I use yahoo for a lot of my mail - I get about 50 items captured in to the spam folder per day. I get about 3 or 4 others that are spam that I kill off without opening.

What I have never understood about spammers is when they send me a message with a subject line of "qqqqqqquuuu7" do they really think that someone is going to open it.
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2008, 07:37:24 PM »

Spam is what I grew up on. My mother uses it as ham, bacon, ground beef, steak, and other assorted meat.  spam spam spam spam ttth watermelon It's part of being from the south.
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2008, 07:37:39 PM »

When I was in the Netherlands fried spam is considered a delicacy. I chose to stick with the Indonesian influenced food.

I do however use it in Jumbilia, Denver Omlets, etc.
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2008, 07:37:56 PM »

What I was trying to say is tha the 'hide your email address' function doesn't work.  Any Joe Blow can come in here and get anyone's email address simply by mousing over the envelope icon, even if you select to hide it in your profile.

The food called SPAM is disgusting.  Ever read how much sodium is in one can of that so-called meat?  And fat. 

Of course, I suppose I'm a hypocrite, I eat Devilled Ham on Saltine crackers.

And my karma went down by two, so I suppose I've upset someone already.  Damn.
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2008, 07:38:07 PM »

karma on this site goes up and down  rotflmao rotflmao rotflmao
as far as your food you dont have expensive taste eating that stuff  rotflmao rotflmao rotflmao

goodluck on your machine purchase
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2008, 07:38:22 PM »

goodluck on your machine purchase
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I'll post after I get it set up.  If they ever allow slots at the race track in this state, I may be able to make a second job learning to be a slot-tech.   reels hit 7's

Thanks for your advice.  Spend the money you won on those wagers well.
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2008, 07:38:35 PM »

IM ASKING ALL MEMBERS ON THIS PLEASE REPLY ON FORUM

NOT POINTING FINGERS BY ANY MEANS ..  no no

since johnnyg started this subject ..made the post of visible email adresses i have recieved piles of spam
which i never recieved before ..plus the COMMON spoof emails from ebay and paypal to update my account ECT.
that ge forwarded to :spoof@ebay.com & spoof@paypal.com

if anyone is having over there normal share please sound off .

 seems odd thats once a month on ebay i get one for the typical saying
 your current info on file needs updating but not wacked within the last  20 in 48 hrs
about 40 of the spam  & ebay updating muted muted muted sh@@T
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2008, 07:38:52 PM »

IM ASKING ALL MEMBERS ON THIS PLEASE REPLY ON FORUM

NOT POINTING FINGERS BY ANY MEANS ..  no no

since johnnyg started this subject ..made the post of visible email adresses i have recieved piles of spam
which i never recieved before ..plus the COMMON spoof emails from ebay and paypal to update my account ECT.
that ge forwarded to :spoof@ebay.com & spoof@paypal.com

if anyone is having over there normal share please sound off .

 seems odd thats once a month on ebay i get one for the typical saying
 your current info on file needs updating but not wacked within the last  20 in 48 hrs
about 40 of the spam  & ebay updating muted muted muted sh@@T
rocket


This is because the email addresses are plainly visible in the HTML and quickly harvested by bots.  You will probably find bot names such as EmailSiphon and Cherry Picker in the web log files. These robots are malignant and are used by spammers to harvest email addresses.  They are usually looking for "mailto:" type links.

The hidden email feature needs to be fixed, but that's just my suggestion.  I'm using a Gmail account, which does an outstanding job of filtering spam and is disposable.  No such luck for many of the people here from what I can see.

Once on a spammer's email list, forever on all spammer's email lists.
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2008, 07:39:07 PM »

hi johnny my significant other as i refer to her  rotflmao rotflmao rotflmao
on this forum not in person  rotflmao rotflmao

works for the gov . yes here puters are quite friendly on not letting anybody in except
who can . yrs ago mine was the same .. but like google everything is saved now everything

great episode on dateline nbc a few weeks ago about unsolved murders traced back to conviction of suspect
because he googled how to do minor wounds on   himself a few yrs before he offed his wife .. oops!!
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2008, 07:39:20 PM »

hi johnny my significant other as i refer to her  rotflmao rotflmao rotflmao
on this forum not in person  rotflmao rotflmao

works for the gov . yes here puters are quite friendly on not letting anybody in except
who can . yrs ago mine was the same .. but like google everything is saved now everything

great episode on dateline nbc a few weeks ago about unsolved murders traced back to conviction of suspect
because he googled how to do minor wounds on   himself a few yrs before he offed his wife .. oops!!
rocket

I might point out that the posts in this forum show up on Google in less than a day and a half.  I Googled for an exact phrase I typed in one of these threads a few days ago and whammo, it was the first hit.
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2008, 07:39:37 PM »

I am getting NO more spam than usual.....

To answer your question ROCKET... just cause JohnnyG noted this in his post doesn't mean we would get more spam...

The harversters are just like the google webcrawller... they go out and touch each page and its very easy to parse for the @ symbol. Just cause it appears hidden here - the email address is very visible in the HTML code that the harvester wouild touch so despite his post showing how to make it visible, it would have no bearing on how a havester would work - they either procure it or they don't.


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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2008, 07:39:53 PM »

No more than usual here either.
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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2008, 07:40:09 PM »

I am getting NO more spam than usual.....

I have nine or so POP accounts and receive little to no spam.  Most of my accounts are fronted by a Gmail account with the same prefix so that if for some reason it gets out of control, I can ditch it and create another Gmail account.  This way, I never give out any of the 'real' email addresses unless it's when I email people I know/trust directly.  As an IT person, I detest spam and spammers to the nth degree.  I even use Mailwasher to filter my email before I download it.  Great little program too btw.  Allows custom filters that allow regular expressions so you can filter on information in headers, like IP addresses.  It took a while, but I automatically delete all email originating from China/Taiwan/Korea and other Asian countries.  I have no friends or business contacts there, so screw them all.  Wink

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To answer your question ROCKET... just cause JohnnyG noted this in his post doesn't mean we would get more spam...

Ah, to test this, create a bogus email account comprised of nonsense characters that don't mean anything and make it your forum email address for a week or so and see if you get spam.  If you do, then it has to have come a bot that harvested it from this site.  Not that I have the time for this, but that's a sure way to test it.
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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2008, 07:40:23 PM »

No more than usual here either.

Well, that's a good sign.  You'll know if a bot finds this site, trust me.
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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2008, 07:40:41 PM »

Hey, I've been slowly adding ip ranges to my e-mail server as well to refuse smtp connections from the Asia Pacific Network, do you have a list of ip ranges handy?
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« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2008, 07:40:59 PM »

I am getting NO more spam than usual.....

To answer your question ROCKET... just cause JohnnyG noted this in his post doesn't mean we would get more spam...

The harversters are just like the google webcrawller... they go out and touch each page and its very easy to parse for the @ symbol. Just cause it appears hidden here - the email address is very visible in the HTML code that the harvester wouild touch so despite his post showing how to make it visible, it would have no bearing on how a havester would work - they either procure it or they don't.





JAY,
i was not saying that because johnny g came on board WE OR ANYONE ARE GETTING MORE but i am lol
 it just seems i never ever get spam

i run 4-6 computers depending where i am at the the haunted mansion here ..
the one i use frequently as all do have extensive firewall protection malware virus etc etc etc
 i personaly have been lucky to NEVER GET A VIRUS EVER..
but it seems that the boys have been busy lately on ebay sending out the spoof mails ??
perhaps because i have several accounts & have been using the buy buy buy accounts alot lately .i know my
geez . ... ohhh.... hate ....to ...sayyyy..IT ..KRIPT TONIGHT .. g-friend has ..oh fiancee to be proper  rotflmao rotflmao rotflmao
 no jokes please
its 12 YRS NOW  & still going good not married ..when asked when???>> i say MAY --- MAY IT NEVER HAPPEN  rotflmao rotflmao rotflmao

hey its y2k now it ok .. oops woppner 5:oo  oclock !! applause applause
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« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2008, 07:41:56 PM »


I'm using a Gmail account, which does an outstanding job of filtering spam and is disposable.  No such luck for many of the people here from what I can see.


I am using Gmail too. I must get 100 spam emails a day, and it filters every one of them. It is excellent. My hotmail account does get spam, but not nearly as much. I use google for newsgroups which is a sure bet for spam.......

I wish that the email part of this site was not handled by links - it's a known way to harvest addresses. That being said, I have no other complaints, and the email thing is defenitely tolerable. Thanks to the admins for doing such a great job with this site!

James
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« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2008, 07:42:11 PM »

Hey, I've been slowly adding ip ranges to my e-mail server as well to refuse smtp connections from the Asia Pacific Network, do you have a list of ip ranges handy?

APNIC is quite extensive.  This should cover most of it:

58.0.0.0/8
59.0.0.0/8
60.0.0.0/8
61.0.0.0/8
116.0.0.0/8
117.0.0.0/8
118.0.0.0/8
119.0.0.0/8
120.0.0.0/8
121.0.0.0/8
122.0.0.0/8
123.0.0.0/8
124.0.0.0/8
125.0.0.0/8
126.0.0.0/8
169.208.0.0/12
202.0.0.0/8
203.0.0.0/8
210.0.0.0/8
211.0.0.0/8
218.0.0.0/8
219.0.0.0/8
220.0.0.0/8
221.0.0.0/8
222.0.0.0/8

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« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2008, 07:42:27 PM »

You forgot 127.0.0.1  rotflmao
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« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2008, 07:42:40 PM »

I am getting NO more spam than usual.....

To answer your question ROCKET... just cause JohnnyG noted this in his post doesn't mean we would get more spam...

The harversters are just like the google webcrawller... they go out and touch each page and its very easy to parse for the @ symbol. Just cause it appears hidden here - the email address is very visible in the HTML code that the harvester wouild touch so despite his post showing how to make it visible, it would have no bearing on how a havester would work - they either procure it or they don't.





JAY,
i was not saying that because johnny g came on board WE OR ANYONE ARE GETTING MORE but i am lol
 it just seems i never ever get spam

i run 4-6 computers depending where i am at the the haunted mansion here ..
the one i use frequently as all do have extensive firewall protection malware virus etc etc etc
 i personaly have been lucky to NEVER GET A VIRUS EVER..
but it seems that the boys have been busy lately on ebay sending out the spoof mails ??
perhaps because i have several accounts & have been using the buy buy buy accounts alot lately .i know my
geez . ... ohhh.... hate ....to ...sayyyy..IT ..KRIPT TONIGHT .. g-friend has ..oh fiancee to be proper  rotflmao rotflmao rotflmao
 no jokes please
its 12 YRS NOW  & still going good not married ..when asked when???>> i say MAY --- MAY IT NEVER HAPPEN  rotflmao rotflmao rotflmao

hey its y2k now it ok .. oops woppner 5:oo  oclock !! applause applause

Dude, you have an AOL account, you should be used to  spam.
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« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2008, 07:42:54 PM »

You forgot 127.0.0.1  rotflmao

There's no place like home...
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« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2008, 07:43:15 PM »

Hey, I've been slowly adding ip ranges to my e-mail server as well to refuse smtp connections from the Asia Pacific Network, do you have a list of ip ranges handy?

APNIC is quite extensive.  This should cover most of it:

58.0.0.0/8
59.0.0.0/8
60.0.0.0/8
61.0.0.0/8
116.0.0.0/8
117.0.0.0/8
118.0.0.0/8
119.0.0.0/8
120.0.0.0/8
121.0.0.0/8
122.0.0.0/8
123.0.0.0/8
124.0.0.0/8
125.0.0.0/8
126.0.0.0/8
169.208.0.0/12
202.0.0.0/8
203.0.0.0/8
210.0.0.0/8
211.0.0.0/8
218.0.0.0/8
219.0.0.0/8
220.0.0.0/8
221.0.0.0/8
222.0.0.0/8


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