Setting up a chamII+ with an S+ as a stand alone.

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Ok, here's my Mikohn ChamII+ with S+ setup notes.  I will detail step-by-step the setup I've just completed.  Thanks to ninja66 for lending me the hardware to try.

1.  Setup the S+ for progressive.  Using a SET90 chip I set up the machine to single level linked.  No other options were necessary. (If your SP chip allows you to setup your progressive by flipping the dip switch, you do not need a set chip)
2.  Connect the S+ to the chamII+ using harness as per the ChamII+ book. 3 wire connection required. (See Page 33 of the ChamII+ user manual for drawing of this harness)
3.  Setup the ChamII+ jackpot settings using the PSP program (the "old" configuration choice on the startup screen).   Requires custom serial cable pin 1 to 5 jumped.
3a. These were my settings.
     Page 1  Base Value        10,000.00
                Current Jackpot 10,000.00
                Hidden Jackpot          0.00
                JP Limit             1,000,000.00 (If I ever get there, I'll let my grandchildren tell you about it)
                Increment 1       00.250 000 00  (this is 25 cents for every coin dropped into the machine.  If you want 1 cent per coin the value would be 00.010 (no matter the denomination set on the S+)
                Increment 2       00.000 000 00 (if you reach the JP limit, this would be the increment value after you reach the JP limit, so you could set a value here if you wanted for the jackpot to grow after you reach the JP Limit)
                Other options on this page that are important F3 should be SNGL, F4 M-08, F5 3sec, F6 JP0, F8 MS08


That should do it.  Fire them up and your progressive should be fully functional.

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One more note regarding the ChamII+ setup.  The power supply and the display came from a ChamII which he (ninja66) could not link up to a con1.  I tried it, didn't work either.  So it's confirmed that the CHAMII power supply and display are pin compatible to the chamII+.

Also another interesting observation.  He has an IGT progressive 7 segment LED system on his machine.  When I hooked up the ChamII+ and set the S+ to single level progressive linked mode. I noticed a little later that the jackpot amount reflected on the IGT display matched the Mikohn display.  If I unplogged the mikohn display, the IGT display would go blank.  So there's a two way communication going on here.  He still wants to use his con1, so he's gonna have invest in a link chamI with display and power supply if he wants multi-machine progressive.

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I spent the better part of a day trying to get the CHAMII+ to display something other than the progressive amount.   I entered the exact same messages that I use with my CON1 and LED5 (CHAMI) but couldn't get it to do anything else.  The machine idle message is not functional on a CHAMII+.  I was able to use the test functions of CHAM but it ignored the CON tests.  I was not able to get it to display the default demo message either.  I got a LOADING......... message on the display and then it went back to the progressive amount.   All this was with firmaware version 2.07.

Alll of the above was using it as STAND ALONE.  It may be totally different if connected to a CON2, but who has the $$$ for that?

If you set the Mfile to 0 using the configuration switches it wll display the PSP sent message Jackpot.do.  I know it worked because I changed the display attributes of the Jackpot.Do file and it worked.  I also got it to display the demo message. What I couldn't get it to do is to display the idle message Mess.do file that is suppose to display if more than 2 minutes of no coin activity passes by.  Also none of the Jack*.do files were displayed during the normal play cycle like it's supposed to.  I was using firmware 1.53.

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Nowhere have I read that the CHAMII+ supports the 2 minute idle time out like the CON1 does.  Therefore, I have to assume the Mess.do file will never work since there is nothing to trigger it to change from the jackpot.do file.


CJ

You are probably correct.  The manual for the chamII+ only mentions the jpot.do file.  I suppose the only way to to have both the jackpot amount displayed and messages would be to make custom backgound.pdf and filename.txt files (which can get very lengthy if you want to do the multicolored "dazzle" and scroll type messages as it is not a function, but you would have to repeat the the phrase over and over like this in order to scroll the message off the screen.  Here's a would be sample to scroll of the word "Scroll"
Mode(0);
Print(Scroll);
Wait(5);
Print(croll );
Wait(5);
Print(roll  );
Wait(5);
Print(oll   );
Wait(5);
Print(ll    );
Wait(5);
Print(l    );
Print(    );
Wait(5);

And that's just to scroll the word "Scroll" and one color, no flashing, etc.
So the background.bat file would look like this

PRGSV c:default.pdf 10
Text b:filename.txt


this would display the jackpot in whatever format your Mfile is set to for 10 seconds then filename.txt would have all those print and wait comands to scroll the word scroll. and the cycle would repeat again.

I think that would do it.

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Good Afternoon!    April is shipping the display unit and the board ChamII board that I won a day earlier (one with the chip and VRM) tomorrow.  Someone (I think it was ninja66) said that I will need cords to connect these together and to the machine that are available here on NLG. Were here?  And what else do I need besides a brain?     Thanks!     Tim 

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Waz there ? ... I assume you are talking IGT reel slot and not the game maker or other.

Incidently I see a Spam ICON in your post but no beer....I am not sure how you can have golf in your handle but not respect the 19th hole.
anyways I digress....

Connecting is easy.... you need three wires from the ChamII+ and you run them to the mother board.
This is the permanently mounted board that the MPU board (the one with the reel/game chips) plugs into at the bottom of the cabinet.

Facing the machine on the far right of the board there is a 4 pin connector.

You will use the two left most pins. Since all these do is momentarily short polarity is not at issue.

On the MPU board (assuming this is a 10mhz board)  you will need to flip Switch 5 to turn on progressives.
I think 6/7/8 remain off for standalone progressive.

You will also need a game chip like 731 that supports progressives. You will need to go to page 9 (9 in the coins played window) and make sure you change progressive from 0 to 1.

Let us know how you make out.... or if you need more detailed instructions.

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Good Afternoon!    April is shipping the display unit and the board ChamII board that I won a day earlier (one with the chip and VRM) tomorrow.  Someone (I think it was ninja66) said that I will need cords to connect these together and to the machine that are available here on NLG. Were here?  And what else do I need besides a brain?     Thanks!     Tim 

First thing  you need to do is switch out the logic boards.  The Unit that came with the display is a chamII and you need a con2 to drive that, so remove it from the power supply and replace it with the chamII+ you won earlier.  Then you need to make a wire harness to the S+.  Not to step on Jay's toes, but the chamII+ requires a 3 wire connection to the S+.  The pin out specs are in the manual for the chamII+.  I made a couple of these cables for Ninja66.  He paid for the components.  Maybe he's willing to part with one as he only has one chamII+ controller.  The first post on this thread as the step by step details on what I had to do to get it going.  Not all that difficult.  You will need a computer capable of running PSP though.  I've had mixed sucess running it of Windows XP.  I used an old toshiba laptop that had windows 98 and it worked like a champ.

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you need a special cable made.  You can basically take a standard serial cable and jump pins 1 and 5.  That will work. You also need to download PSP from this site in the download folder.

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A CHAM2 does not hook up to the S+.  Only connects to the CON.

If you are talking CHAM2+ (that's PLUS), then J7 connects to the prog connector J12 on the mother board of the S+ or PE+


The Harness is pictured on page 33(39) of this manual: CHAMII+ User Manual 990-241-38 Rev B

CJ

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I believe the chamII+ interface is is a 3 wire rig.....

If you look at the S+ straight on with the hopper removed. The mother board is on the bottom.
The tray with the knob is the MPU board and that plugs into the mother board.

On the front right side of the motherboard there is a 4 pin connector.

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  Were do I hook up on the CHAM2 with the wires from the mother board? Besides the serial there are 3 more places that somthing can be pluged in . Thanks!   Tim

From the description of the boot process you posted on the other thread, you have a ChamII.  That will only work with a con2 supercontroller. You had said earilier that you also purchased the ChamII Plus logicboard by itself.  You will need to replace that board with the one that is mounted on the powersupply.  The power supply and display will work with the ChamII Plus.  Once you do that you will need to program your progressive information using the PSP program and next you will need to connect the whole thing to the S-Plus.  It requires a 3 wire connection between J12 on S+ Mainboard (not the one you remove for game changes, but the one that is fixed on the slot cabinet) and J7 of the ChamII Plus as follows

Pin 4 from S+ J12 goes to pin 3 on ChamII Plus J7
Pin 3 from S+ J12 goes to pin 13 on ChamII Plus J7
Pin 2 from S+ J12 goes to pin 11 on ChamII Plus J7

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Good afternoon!!     CHAMII+ Blow Up Day           Before I drive Jay nuts I thought that I would get a few of the preliminary things done first. The cable from the mother board to the CHAMII+.........How do I know which pin is which on the J12 and J7?  Do they simply number from left to right, top row first? I have both schematics but neither number the pins.  Also I noted that (I think it was Rick) had made cables for these. Were did you get the male plugs?   Thanks!    Tim

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I bought the plugs from mouser www.mouser.com)" target="_blank">(www.mouser.com).  There's a minimum order of $25.00 so I bought multiples.
J12 is pictured here.  It's the one with the Red Plug on it.  The part # from mouser is 640614.  It's 22 AWG wire. Pin 1 is to the right.

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So far so good..I have the cables and computer ready........The dos program is asking for a password and the number keys are all that to seem to work.   HELP!    Thanks!   Tim

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The password is 135642

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Don't forget to jump pins 1 and 5 on the cable or back of the board.  Also, pick OLD, NOT CON1 or CON2.

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Remember to press " F10 " and not" enter " for password validity

cheers

Ozzy

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OK! Thanks........... ..Got it doing all kinds of cool stuff, displaying text, the demo message etc. I can not get it to communicate with the S+. I am guessing as to the wire placement on the units. On the mother board there are 4 pins, are they 1,2,3,4, left to right?  And on the CHAMII+ there are 14 pins on the J7. Looking at the board with the J7 on the bottom, are the pins 1-7 on the top row and 8-14 on the bottom left to right?    I have the S+ set up for progressive stand alone (I guess) and it has the page 9 progressive settings available (I know that this is for the IGT display but it does show that the machine is set up for progressive...Right?) Thanks!   Tim

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On J7, pin 1 coonects to pin 2 on the S+, pin 2 on J7 connects to pin 3 on the S+ and pin 6 on J7 connects to pin 1 on the S+.

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I have some pretty good ideas about the mounting........just trying to decide if I want the power supply and board inside the cabinet or on top with the display. Inside would be easier, but I am wondering about the temperature as it runs hot in there already.     OK......I decided to program my 2nd Mic display at the same time, and I can not remember  how I got out of the demo mode........it's stuck there. How do I escape the demo?  Thanks!   Tim

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need to re-send jackpot.do file.  Sometimes it doesn't take.  So what I do is turn off the progressive unit.  Then turn it on again, and when the message begins to scroll, then I go to page 4  in PSP and hit F1.  That usually fixes it.  Or, you could just set the MFile to something other that 0 using the configuration buttons on the ChamII+.

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I have my top box of a 9" loaded with the CON1, The LED5 and mini display (driven by the CON1), and the IGT internal progressive.

I find that the powersupply on the LED5 fails from time to tme (after being on longer than 3hrs), and I believe it is heat related. I am someday going to break down and replace it. CompUSA has inexpensive PC power supplies for $24.00 which I have been told should work. I am thinking the internal fan on the PC power supply might help the situation a bit. There is not a lot of places for that heat to go but at least there will be some air movement.

I had been thinking of buying one decent high output supply and driving all 3 LED5's in each machine but have since been talked out of it. The concern is that you might introduce floating grounds between machines....

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Thanks!  Would you believe....... ....that I might just Leave it in the display mode..   Wile I was waiting to find out how you get out of the demo mode (I had been hitting the jackpot.do reload...will try it like Jay said) I decided to have a little fun with it. I re wrote the demo, added some different effects, and now I have a sign welcoming people to my casino room. I put so much stuff on there that it takes over 8 min. to repeat. 
On the first one I have decided to mount the display on top in a 2" high enclosure with the power supply inside. I am making it in such a way that it will add to the cooling of the upper cabinet by cutting out the large circular hole that is in the metal, but not in the laminate. That way the hot air that is in the upper 16" top should, by convection, be drawn into the upper part I am building and channeled into the cooling slot I am providing. I will send some pictures when I get the formica on.  Well................I'M hooked now..    Already have a bid in on another CHAMII+ and another power supply. And I purchased 3 IGT progressive displays from April yesterday for......she is probably going to slap me for posting this....75.00 each. So I think I'M going to copy Jay and have the primary on the Mikohn and the secondary jackpot on the IGT.   
And thanks to all of you...... ....I did not drive Jay totally NUTS this weekend! 
Thanks again!   Tim

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Finished the mounting box. Made 3 alike but only took the time to put the gloss black laminate on one. Has 1/16 Plexiglas in front, 3/4" cooling slot in the back. Pictures follow in separate posts due to my  speed dial up.   Tim

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