Slot Topper Wiring

[cowboygames]

I bought a CDS/Aristocrat slot topper on ebay last night and I'm curious as to whether it's gonna be a problem wiring this to my S2000. It was only $25 with shipping so I figured it was worth the buy it know and find out if it's gonna work later deal. I assume that most of these companies get there signage made by the same subcontractors or at the very least they use similar operating voltages for their perriferal devices.

[Foster]

It should not be too hard.
the Topper probably operates on 12-13 (LEDs) and 24-25V (Fluorescents)

Candle should be easy just use your existing candle as a guide.
When you receive it post detailed pictures of the inside and existing wiring in it.
 

[KirkLasVegas]

It should not be too hard.
the Topper probably operates on 12-13 (LEDs) and 24-25V (Fluorescents)

Candle should be easy just use your existing candle as a guide.
When you receive it post detailed pictures of the inside and existing wiring in it.
 

Assume NOTHING!
I have seen Bally and WMS use 6 volts,others use 5 volts, some use 24 volts and still others use 12-14 volts. My WMS Bluebird uses 120 volts for the topper general lighting!!
What I usually do is look up the wiring if possible. If that doesnt work, completely disassemble the topper and go searching for markings.
Polarity and voltage of caps on boards will give you a hint of polarity and typical voltages.
When you blow up a topper because someone told you they thought it was a 12 volt version...it sucks....
A few minutes of research will save a major "Aw Shit!"


Kirk

[cowboygames]

Thanks for the advice you guys! I don't know if anyone saw it, but it's the "JAMAICA ME MONEY" sign that was on ebay till yestrday. Soon as it gets here I'll take it apart and see what the board inside tells me.

[ashyron]

Thanks for the advice you guys! I don't know if anyone saw it, but it's the "JAMAICA ME MONEY" sign that was on ebay till yestrday. Soon as it gets here I'll take it apart and see what the board inside tells me.

   That one?  I almost bought it but decided I didn't need it.  You got it for a great price.  Let me warn you when you take that topper apart.  I haven't done it but I know two people that took it apart and those little LED's are a mess to get put back on so go slow and use some masking tape to keep those LED's in place. 

[cowboygames]

I'll keep that in mind, thanks! I'd of just popped the cover off thinking the lights were surface mounted directly to a board, but I'll pay close attention. Did seem like a hell of a deal though. Put in the minimum bid with an hour something left and figured I'd get sniped at the end. Works for me!

[ashyron]

I'll keep that in mind, thanks! I'd of just popped the cover off thinking the lights were surface mounted directly to a board, but I'll pay close attention. Did seem like a hell of a deal though. Put in the minimum bid with an hour something left and figured I'd get sniped at the end. Works for me!

I figured it would get sniped too, I don't like sniping.  I figure I will put in a bid and if someone wants it bad enough they can have it.  

Yea, I thought I would warn you about those lights.  I hear they can make quite a mess.  I hope you can get it wired.  Oh also, once you get it in hand, maybe you can look at the back of it and see if it is the snap-in type (like sliding in a hopper) or if it's wired.  If it's the snap-in type (with the hopper-like connector) I could take some pics of my wiring for that.  That's what I have on my CDS machines.  Maybe that might help you but don't wanna just post if it isn't that type.

[cowboygames]

Funny you mentioned that because one of the pics they posted kind of shows the bottom and it looks like it has two slots for some type of bracket. Would it be easier to see if someone has the bracket I could mount to my machine? Or better yet, maybe it comes with it and they didn't show it in the ad. Who knows, I'll find out in a couple days though. It already shipped

[ashyron]

Funny you mentioned that because one of the pics they posted kind of shows the bottom and it looks like it has two slots for some type of bracket. Would it be easier to see if someone has the bracket I could mount to my machine? Or better yet, maybe it comes with it and they didn't show it in the ad. Who knows, I'll find out in a couple days though. It already shipped

  It looks to me that what you are seeing on the bottom is the mounting holes for the topper itself. This topper slides in place and has two nuts on the inside of the machine itself.  I am more curious to see the back of it.  CDS has two different types of connections.  Depending on the type of wiring I might be able to help you with a bracket from a machine I got from a friend for parts.  

I'm actually heading out to the carport to take pictures of the parts machine and maybe some pics of my good working machines so you can get an idea of what I am talking about.  I doubt they are going to send you the bracket for the machine.  I'll post a couple pics in a few minutes, let me go take some first.  I gotta get off this couch anyway before I fall asleep.  

[ashyron]

OK I got 4 pictures for you but I don't know if you will have this type of connection.  This should give you an idea as to how it hooks up in a CDS and you might be able to plan on how you want to connect it to your s2000.  I hope this helps.  It might just be 

[ashyron]

Two more pics for ya. 

[ashyron]

Let's try that pic again.

[cowboygames]

Good pics ashy, thanks. I'm thinking mounting bracket isn't gonna be there.  :8-After I get it I might ask you about voltages for the lighting. Candle shouldn't be to tough. Sure appreciate all the help

[CaptainHappy]

 

Ron,

Maybe I should have raped the two CDS machines that I just gave to you of that connector???

What was I thinking?

Just Kidding! I just recognized the machine! HA HA!

CH

[cowboygames]

Don't those CDS machines have a much sharper arc to the top than a IGT roundtop? Might take a little ingenuity just to mount it to the machine. Heck, took a little ingenuity just to spell ingenuity!

[ashyron]

Don't those CDS machines have a much sharper arc to the top than a IGT roundtop? Might take a little ingenuity just to mount it to the machine. Heck, took a little ingenuity just to spell ingenuity!

You have a good point.  Yes I believe they are so you might just have to send that topper to me to hold on to until you find a way to mount it or buy a CDS machine to attach it to.  

How do you spell that again?

Ron,

Maybe I should have raped the two CDS machines that I just gave to you of that connector???

What was I thinking?

Just Kidding! I just recognized the machine! HA HA!

CH

LOL CH There isn't much more to take off it You want the connector, come find me for your connector.  

[cowboygames]

LOL! Are you sure you don't wanna just wait till I put it on a CDS machine? Then I could give ya the whole thing till I got tired of not playing it

[ashyron]

LOL! Are you sure you don't wanna just wait till I put it on a CDS machine? Then I could give ya the whole thing till I got tired of not playing it

Well shoot.  Now why didn't I think of that?!?!  I like it.  When can I expect it? 

[cowboygames]

To be crazy enough to do that I'd have to be crazy enough to carry it on my back, so if you'll excuse me I'll be lifting weights for a bit. Unfortunately, they're made by Miller and only weigh 12 oz each. Gonna be a lot of lifting

[ashyron]

To be crazy enough to do that I'd have to be crazy enough to carry it on my back, so if you'll excuse me I'll be lifting weights for a bit. Unfortunately, they're made by Miller and only weigh 12 oz each. Gonna be a lot of lifting

  I'm still half asleep right now so it took me a minute to figure it out but I got it.   You're a pretty funny guy ya know.      I like it.

Now back to regular programming.

If you'd like I can take a topper off my good working CDS game and set it on top of a s2000 machine and take a couple pics so you can get an idea of what you will be working with. Or, I can just wait for everything to show up at my door

[Buzz]

Brian at Rocky Mt. Slots has some CDS toppers. A PM might get you some parts. 

[cowboygames]

Making fun of yourself is half the fun you get out of life Pics of awhat it might look like would be great though. I've got a friend who owns a metal shop locally and some ideas on how to make a simple sheet metal bracket to adapt this thing to my machine. Mounting it will probably be the easier of the two issues. Wiring I won't know till I see it. If it runs on 24v for the lighting that would be great, because I've got an extra 24v 2.5amp supply that'll plug right into the distribution box in the belly of the game. Oops, sorry Buzz, replied before I read yours. I'll drop him a line after I look and see what's gonna be involved here. Thanks!

[ashyron]

Pics of awhat it might look like would be great though.  Thanks!

   I gotta package up some glass for shipping (storage actually) so give me a little time and I will get you some pics.  Now you got me curious as to what it'll look like.   

[cowboygames]

I think it's gonna look pretty good. Depends on how high it'll have to sit above the machine with the arc it has versus the arc of the S2000 top box. Might end up having to change the double Diamond to something else to get a better color match between the sign and game. Nothing like a good challenge though

[ashyron]

I think it's gonna look pretty good. Depends on how high it'll have to sit above the machine with the arc it has versus the arc of the S2000 top box. Might end up having to change the double Diamond to something else to get a better color match between the sign and game. Nothing like a good challenge though

I am actually surprised to see how well this topper fit on an s2000 round top machine.  The only problem you might have is the black spacer.  You'll see it in the pictures.

Now on to the pictures.