S+ slant top conversion

[mborich]

looking to convert my 25c RWB Triple Slant top to a 5c machine, what do i need to do this.  the hopper is set up for 25c.  what is the difference between
a shelf wheel and a pinwheel.  do i need both of them??

[reho33]

You need a nickle shelf wheel. the agitator is the same. You might just want to consider getting a nickel hopper from one of the distributors on this page or put in Classifieds section on this site WTB IGT nickel hopper complete. Is it an S2000 or an S+? The hoppers are different

[mborich]

it is a S+ and do i need to change the escaltor out also?

[coorslight115]

I seem to remember reading here somewhere that the escalator is different. I think it was in the last thread about what tokens to use

[ashyron]

it is a S+ and do i need to change the escaltor out also?

  From what I am to understand, you will need to change the escalator out also since quarters are a different size than nickels and I believe nickels are a smidge bit thicker than quarters so nickels probably wouldn't go up the escalator without some modifications to it. 

If it were me, I would just replace the hopper all together if possible and store the quarter one for  later use, just in case you want to go back to quarters.  And to properly do this right, you will need to change the coin head also.  Modifications can be made to that also if you are mechanically inclined.  

Oh and also, you will probably need a nickel black thing that goes under the coin comparitor so the machine can give you credit for the coin.  One of my machines had a quarter head but a 50 cent black thingy so it wouldn't always credit my coin drop.  Once that black thingy was replaced then I was good to go.

The black thingy I am referring to is in the second pic and that goes behind that circuit boad of the first pic.  If you look at those they have numbers on them and should also say the denomination it is used for.  The one I had in it said 50 cents and the one I have in there now says 25 cents.  So again, since quarters are a different size than nickels, the nickels might not always  be counted when the coin is dropped in.

[mborich]

nickels fit in the escalator that i have, they do not stick

[ashyron]

nickels fit in the escalator that i have, they do not stick

Then you should just have to replace the quarter shelf with a nickel one and be on your way.

[coorslight115]

And goto the bank and cash all your quarters in for nickels 

[mborich]

you talking about the nickel shelf wheel????  what is a nickel pinwheel then?   do i need them both?

[coorslight115]

Pin wheel should work ok, now if you were going to quarters with a nickel pin wheel that would not work.

I borrowed Bunkers picture of a hopper. Quarter in this picture is sitting on top of the shelf wheel and lying on the pin wheel between pins about to travel to the left arcoss the knife. Hope that helps with the terms

[ROCKET]

nickels fit in the escalator that i have, they do not stick

nickels wont work in a quarter hopper --its that simple --they will jam and wont trigger the actuator on the top end of the quarter escalator to credit payout depending on the type of hopper used  !!

the coin com just needs a nickel --replaced instead of quarter thats easy ----the optic black thing >>you call<<<they do make them for nickels you will get skips on nickels if you have a larger one in there !!

your best getting a nickel hopper with escalator installed .. plus a nickel coin head for the top lid of machine

MODIFIED: WITH NICKEL ENCODER FOR COIN OPTICS

[mborich]

so, right now i have a quarter pinwheel.  all i need is a nickel shelf then?

[ashyron]

the optic black thing >>you call<<<they do make them for nickels you will get skips on nickels if you have a larger one in there !!

That was the exact problem I ran into with mine.  I had a 50 cent one in and not a 25 cent so it would/could cost me $1.50 for it to register 75 cents.  I know there is a name for that part but I'll be damned if I can think of it right now.  Is it called a 'coin reducer'??  

[ROCKET]

the optic black thing >>you call<<<they do make them for nickels you will get skips on nickels if you have a larger one in there !!

That was the exact problem I ran into with mine.  I had a 50 cent one in and not a 25 cent so it would/could cost me $1.50 for it to register 75 cents.  I know there is a name for that part but I'll be damned if I can think of it right now.  Is it called a 'coin reducer'??  

hit the books---- I always called it the coin denomination  optic card ??

[ashyron]

hit the books---- I always called it the coin denomination  optic card ??

Last time I hit a book I got a migraine. 

[ROCKET]

hit the books---- I always called it the coin denomination  optic card ??

Last time I hit a book I got a migraine.  

READING IS THE BEST THERAPY !!

 BLACK THING LOL==COIN ENCODER

[ROCKET]

personally I would just leave the machine .25 cent ??
or if a switch was done ??

Do  all slant tops in 1.00 token   parts are less expensive you dont tie up piles of nickels or quarters

just buy the same 1.00 token when you buy


a 1.00 slant top hopper is cheap money and coin head and coin optic aka >>black thing <<

i did it to 15 SLANTS ---- I have -- its a lot easier then money does not walk away if nickels or quarters .. are there for me or kids to crab for coffeee money

[Buzz]

  The quarter shelf wheel, the pin wheel, the coin optics, the coin head, and the hopper optics will all work just fine when changing to a nickel. the escalator will not work, a nickel is just enough thicker that it will jam close to the top. I would suggest fill your quarter hopper with some nickels, with one hand release the brake and rotate the pin wheel with the other hand, watch and see if the nickels travel up the escalator ( take note where they jam ) If they don't jam your escalator is well worn and you are in good shape, if they do jam you have two choices remove the coin counter at the top and with a file remove the obstruction material, second option take a grinder and remove the weld on each side of the escalator, with a hammer and small chisel spread the sides wide enough for the nickel to pass. Thrid and best option stay with quarters. 

[blueridgeslots]

Or just buy a nickel hopper and be done with it, Nickel Slant Hopper, Coin Head, Encoder and Denom Insert $45 plus shipping, hopper cleaned and tested, or $35 if just put in a box, and if you have a BV and need a Set Chip we can do that as well

[PWRSTROKE]

I am all for putting the stuff in a box.  ----

[ROCKET]

Or just buy a nickel hopper and be done with it, Nickel Slant Hopper, Coin Head, Encoder and Denom Insert $45 plus shipping, hopper cleaned and tested, or $35 if just put in a box, and if you have a BV and need a Set Chip we can do that as well

not to start fights but once i heard the grinder come out ?? i figured the next post was going to be the oxy acetlene tanks come out to burn a a wider path up the escalater



as i said in begining !!

buy a complete nickel hopper with escalater or convert to 1.00 if you have multiple slant tops -less coin jam problems over all with heavy coins
but the guy did not know diff bwtween pinwheel and shelf wheel ..thats ok he is learning --but to srat grinding welds lol i would have to be desperate
to convert that hopper .. its like putting a FORD engine in a CHEVY going that rte .
good thing Jim stepped up and offered a super price !!

nickel slant top hoppers were scarce for awhile .. but the part i mentioned about tying up "'real" "  money" applies still !! if you have machines with quarters -----nickels --etc -- they do walk away for the coffee shop !!

i never found the 1.00 tokens to go to coffee shop
SIDE NOTE : the smaller the coin nickel -dime -quarter you are more proned to have hopper jams vs .50 or 1.00 denominations . not in the escalator just in the hopper itself .
plus on coin drops >> on fast feed coin >>>>>> you will get jams in the comparitor more frequent with small coin than larger heavy coin this applies to slant top and upright ..

good going Jim ! good to see your back posting !! -- MAG-7 AWARD SLANT TOP S+   ??????its been almost 8 yrs since i started the search ..