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« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2010, 09:23:52 PM »

ok last question for now...hehe
this picture shows the unit that the coin passes through after its gone through the previous unit. there are 3 optical sensors.. the top two has lights that come on, but not the bottom one. looks like its been damaged. then there is a solenoid to the left that hasent worked yet....what is it for?
Thanks for all the help.

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Your machine has black optics. Universal used Gray and Black optics on their machines. I've never worked on the black optics so I'm not sure what the difference is other than color. But I do know they are different on how they work.
In your picture the top two optics counts the coins as they pass. They used two optics to make sure cheaters did not use a coin on a string. The optics must see the coin pass through the top optic a millisecond(s) before passing through the bottom optic. 
The solenoid is called the diverter solenoid. In the hopper you should see a silver probe. When the hopper is full the coins touch the silver probe which grounds the probe. The mpu board sees the grounded probe and activates the solenoid. It, in turn, tilts up the diverter flap allowing the coins to drop through a hole in the bottom of the slot. In a casino that hole goes to an overflow bowl in the slot stand. This prevents coins from overflowing all over the bottom of the slot machine.
The bottom optic counts the coins dropped into the bowl in the slot stand. This is then registered on the meter called "Coins to Cashbox".
On U.S. machines if this optic fails no errors are displayed. So this optic can be used as a spare.
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« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2010, 09:32:59 PM »

here is 2 pics of the coin unit. Is it complete? This is front and rear....it just clips out with a lever...do you maybe know what type of coin unit it is?
can you see there is a piece of paper stuck into thet solenoid lever to keep it pulled in so the coins wont fall right through and out again. Why would that be?
The coin unit is called a coin comparitor. Yours looks to be incomplete. There are different brands so not sure what you have there.
They make sure the coin dropped in matches what you want. Usually a sample coin is inserted on the comparitor as a reference.
Some comparitors are more mechanical and use the weight and size of coin to verify it is correct. That little box just above the paper is the lockout coil. It will hold, what is called the rake, in and this drops unwanted coins to the tray. Approved, accepted coins would cause the lockout coil to move the rake out of the way so the coin can drop through the two optics, get counted, and then be deposited into the hopper.
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« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2010, 09:41:36 PM »

Hey Guys!

Here is a picture of the rhs inside of the machine, i know the yellow button is the service switch, which i press to get into the menu. the black sound knob is to adjust sound level.
the green button says test sw - what is that for? then there is a key switch that says hopper reset empty sw - What is that for?. and then there is a red button - what is that for?
Hope you can help me figure this out. I'll be taking this machine step by step and learn everything and fix her up before  i strip here down and clean.

Many thanks

Mike
Maybe NLG member Buzz can help here. He has an 8600 machine that does not work. Buzz, what does the red button label say?

On US machines the red button is the Service Switch. The Green button is the Test Switch and the Yellow button is the Reset switch.
There are no displayed menus on US machines.
The Green Test button is used for specific tests like Reel Strip alignment, sound test, program number, etc. The US manual lists these tests.
Also, US machines have no hopper empty reset key. When US hoppers go empty an error is displayed. The hopper is filled with coin and the yellow reset is pushed resetting the machine.
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« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2010, 03:15:21 PM »

Uniman, many thanks for all your info, this helps me alot and i'm learning alot!
Will try and find another coin comparitor.

Again, thank you for your valuable info.

Regards
Mike
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« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2010, 03:19:21 PM »

Just for info, here is a photo of the number on the mpu.
Mike


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« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2010, 03:25:09 PM »

Hello again, in the first pic, when i put coins in, it registers/counts them etc, but then the coins dont fall into the hopper, it falls into the door!
Is the something missing here or am i just missing something?

The second picture.. in the middle, there are a few wires that has been cut off....how will i know where they are suppose to go to?

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« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2010, 04:48:24 PM »

Hello Michael

You are probably missing the drop chute - In a casino environment coins fall into the base once the hopper is full. Depending on how the machine is designed it may need the diverter coil to be energised to send coins to the hopper or otherwise the divertor flap is stuck or bent. I see that your machine has got a Vacuum Fluorescent display (The green one) this is a bonus as you probably dont need to know what code corresponds to each io options and error mode. Ther should be an IO test mode. In the output test menu look for something called divertor test.
(Dont know the menu structures of this machine but it should be somewhere in there) - This may be related to the cut wires.

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« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2010, 10:55:42 PM »

Hi Mike,
Yes you are missing a part. In the US Uni manual it is called the "Coin Guide".
That is why your coins are falling in the door.

Don't worry about the solenoid diverter unless it does activate. The Uni machines over here sometimes have problems with the diverter activating when the hopper is not full. What I do is zip tie it shut if it acts up.

Not sure on your broken/cut wires. Your wiring is different than what I see over here.

Here is a pic of my machines coin-in assembly. It has a CC16D comparitor with a dollar token in it. Note the "Coin Guide" chute that takes the coins to the hopper. (right below the bottom optic)


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« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2010, 03:11:52 PM »

Hey guys, thanks UNIMAN!
URTHEMAN!
I pushed the solenoid by hand and now the coins drop into the hopper!!!
Awesome...enjoy working on this machine.

I found two sensors that is taped together lying behid the reels. they are black and shorter than the ones on the coin counter. i took the tape off and then the machine didnt want to work,
saying on the screen something about door open......so i taped them together again and it whent away. one sensors wires goes to the door and the other goes to the top, into the top glass section.
Could you know what they can be and why someone would tape them together? where should they go?

then here is a pic of the starter....people at the lighting shops here say it is a bulp, but one guy said it is a starter for fluorescent bulp, my bulps arnt working.
I cant get something like this and was wondering if i can replace it with normal 220v fluorescent light starters?

Hope you have a great day!!

Mike
ps, i replaced all the neon bulps allready


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« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2010, 10:26:54 AM »

Hi Guys,

I am also in need of a Universal manual covering the 8116, based in SA and afrikaans speaking nogal.

Craig
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« Reply #35 on: October 26, 2010, 05:08:53 AM »

Howzit Craig
 Me, too!
i am also from SA and in need of a 8116 manual. I have traced the wiring harness and i am busy putting it into a schematic format.
The Machine i have was abandoned for years and was dumped and the rats ate some of the wiring.
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« Reply #36 on: October 26, 2010, 02:01:02 PM »

Howzit Craig
 Me, too!
...and the rats ate some of the wiring.

Those damn rats...!!!   frying pan frying pan
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« Reply #37 on: October 26, 2010, 06:00:43 PM »

Howzit

Altyd lekker om nog Suid Afrikaners hier te sien. (Always nice to see more South Africans here).
Welcome to NLG. Please PM me with and email that can recieve a 6M file.

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« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2010, 04:19:55 AM »

The rats here in SA are bigger than the cats garfield
Thanks for quick responce Guys.  applause
TZtech i have sent you my e-mail thanks for your help
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« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2011, 10:39:11 PM »

Guys, it looks like i also have one of these machine, but a 5 reel version, with the 8600 main card, i have the error "invalid game------meter error" and have tried and tried to find a manual or some help, if anyone know what this might be please email me at matt@thumpainc.com

All the lights work apart from the meter LED panel, nothing at all loght up there, the LED screen still scrolls the meter error fault but thats is, wont except coins or work, its just stuck like this

I have checked the power supply and have all 3 outputs, 10vac, 24vac and 10vac, no blown fuses at all

Please ehlp
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« Reply #40 on: January 26, 2011, 05:38:36 PM »

This is the machine i need help with, the part not powering up i am pointing at in the last picture:









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