WMS change over

[StatFreak]

Okay. It sounds like there is something else wrong with your Jackpot Party and that it's not the I/O board.

Count the bongs on the Jackpot Party carefully. Are you sure that they are continuous, or are there exactly 10?


Okay, look at the jurisdiction jumpers on the two I/O boards (don't mix them up). They are located at the lower (front) left of the board. It looks sort of like an empty socket, but instead of holes there are small posts. The jumper might be empty (no wires) or might have wires that go from the top posts across to the bottom posts.

Do both boards have the same jumpers (or none)?

[pyrohobie]

Jackpot party does nothing- That was the pig game

The 5 LED's are on with the failed led on the I/O board-

Tried to reseat them hasn't changed- Turning off-same

[Neonkiss]

JurrBad is caused from the changing of the I/O boards.
The game chips in the CPU will be looking for a specific jurisdiction setting on the I/O board
When you swap an I/O with a different pin-out you get that error.

[StatFreak]

JurrBad is caused from the changing of the I/O boards.
The game chips in the CPU will be looking for a specific jurisdiction setting on the I/O board
When you swap an I/O with a different pin-out you get that error.

IF they are different. That's why I asked him to check them and report back, but he didn't answer that part of my post. IF that is what happened, then fixing the Pig just requires a clear.

Since we have been using the Pig parts to check out the Jackpot Party, I was planning on holding off on clearing the Pig until we finished figuring out the issue with the JP.

[StatFreak]

Since swapping the I/O board didn't change the status of the Jackpot Party, I'm thinking that the problem is on the MPU board, or with the EPROMS on the MPU board.

Neon, do you agree?   or do you have another suggestion?

[Neonkiss]

I have seen where the RAM chip on the backplane will not allow the machine to boot properly after swapping I/O's with different Jurisdiction settings.
At this point a he will need to push the red button on the front card cage and see if the BadJur goes away. Usually it changes to Ram Clear needed or something like that.
Doing a full clear should resolve these issues.

For this reason alone all my machines are set to LV jurisdiction. This way I can trouble shoot I/O's and MPU's without getting caught up in locking up a machine.

Also remember throughout this trouble shooting process with this member, I have seen reference to three machines.
1) Jackpot party
2) Big Bang Piggie
3) Reel Em' In

[pyrohobie]

Hi Neon;

I was VERY stupid on this process- I do have 4 machines-Reel em in-Jackpot party-Stampede-PIG

Stampede is now fixed!

PIG and Reel was working when we started-not now.

I(with help) realized with the 3led's on the I/O board(Party) there was a PS problem- I took the PS out of Reel and now I got 5 leds with the fail light on Jackpot.

I thought switching out the I/O board out of PIG could see if that was the problem with Party-no difference

Put the board back into PIG and now I have a failed LED and constant "DONGS".

That is where we are at-

I WILL KEEP THE PROBLEMS SEPARATE FROM HERE ON!!!!!!!!!

Jackpot Party- Has All 5 LED"S on with the fail LED on also-

I tried to Ram clear with no luck

Thank You guys for helping big time!

[paul]

continues bong sounds like U30 sound chip on the CPU

[pyrohobie]

When this happens you won't get any error codes on the display? Time to start looking for chips

[paul]

also check your jumper and make sure it is set properly on the CPU 8 meg or 4 meg

[tollguy316]

I've been following this topic for the last few days.... frustrating to say the least.  If I had 4 non-running cars ; I wouldn't ask how to fix all 4 at once.   ....That being said; it's wise of Pyrohobie to stick with fixing 1 game at a time.....   Now that I got that off of my chest... let's get to work.   JACKPOT PARTY.... In the top box; u3 and u4 are 4 meg chips... make sure those jumpers are in the upper position ( not the lower).    On the CPU board the u17, 18, 30 and 31 are 8 meg chips... make sure the JP2 jumper is in the p7 - p7 out  position.  I have seen that game with standard jurisdiction and NJ jurisdiction; so just forget about that for now.... Put the .25 clear chip in the u3 space and turn the game on..... what happens ???  Good luck  and don't be offended by my message as I didn't mean it that way.... There are alot of helpful people on this site who are more than happy to help you.... one machine at a time...  Bill

[pyrohobie]

Nothing changed- 5 LED's on with the fail LED on also-

No front lights on front

Bill- also there is JP2 is on XU4, JP1 is on UX3, JP4 & JP5 is on XU10- All the jumpers are on the top

[paul]

check for bent pins on your chips

[Neonkiss]

pyro,
Where are you located?
Fill out your profile and maybe someone is close to you that can help.
If push comes to shove, I can test boards for you.

[pyrohobie]

After a LONG conversation with Stat;

I think we came to the conclusion that when I changed the PS from Reel em in to Jackpot party(that  already had a ATX conversion) that I double the volts/amps to the I/O board- then when I put the PIG I/O board and the Reel em in I/O board Cause some good damage to the I/O boards.

Now, I will put the Jackpot on the back burner. I have to find 3 I/O boards to replace the ones that I screwed up.

Does anyone Know of anyone who has any I/O boards

Thank You for everyone who helped-when I find some parts I will come part and fix 1 machine at a time


Oh- I live in Michigan

[knagl]

I think CFH is in Michigan, too, and he's the WMS Dotmation expert.  It may be worth a PM to him to see if he's close to you.

[StatFreak]

Doug, did you ever get your machines working?

[pyrohobie]

Hi Stat;

Neon helped me out and got PIG up and running. I need to check more into PS problem and need a I/O board because Neon advised me that all the boards were no good. The 2 I/O boards I got from a vendor turned out to be faulty also.

Thanks guys for all the help-Hopefully will get a new board in the up coming week.