Igt S2000 sound problem - humming and static

[StatFreak]

Kevin this is apples and oranges but the first Big Time Pay I got, it had the wrong sound simm in it. It made a Quacking sound like a Duck when a BTP symbol hit. Hit on the #1 reel and it quacked out of the left speaker. #2 reel out of the right speaker.  If you pressed the change button it would quack. I sold the machine to Ashyron he got tired of the duck and pulled he simm out.

Haha, funny.  Sounds like you had the Quack Shot SIMM.  Quack, quack.

That's what it was. (We don't have a duck emote)

[blueridgeslots]

Don't run a MM Lite without a Simm on it, makes no sense to do that, someone just stole the Simm off it, the static will go away without the MM Lite on it a well, and the DSV 42 is wrong on the BTP, you need the DSV 51 for the correct sounds, we have all the themed sound simms in stock

[CaptainHappy]

why not try removing the MMLII board and try it.

Well, I went in the other direction -- I had an unused DSV00042 in the third machine I bought (I haven't even turned that one on yet), so I "borrowed" that SIMM and put it in the whump, whump, whump machine.  The sound was really muddy at first, but then I went through and changed the settings to stereo, and enhanced reel spin sounds, rollup, etc.  Wow!  It's fantastic!  All the speakers work on that machine, and it sounds great!  I can hear just the slightest bit of "static" when the machine is idle -- I suppose a 10 ohm resistor along with a slight increase in volume would cover that up, but even right now it sounds fantastic -- I didn't realize that S2000 machines sounded that good!

On top of it all, while noodling around I got to hear quite a bit of the rollup tune, as I hit a 3000 credit award!  I took a picture and will post it in the 'best slot hits' category.

So, for what it's worth, on an S2000 machine with a 504 B board and a multimedia lite board with no SIMM, installing a SIMM will remove the whump, whump, whump sound.

It seems to be working fine, but how do I determine if I'm using the correct sound SIMM with my kit (it's a 2 coin White Stars game -- and I stole the SIMM from a 3 coin White Ice game)?


Buzz- Just saw your post as I was posting -- thanks for the suggestion.  It sounded like the noise was coming from the speakers, but now with the sound SIMM in there it's gone.

K+ to you and Wayne for the suggestions.

Kevin,

The White Stars and White Ice games should have the 42 sound SIMM as it is universal in all regular themed games. It will work in specialized theme games as well, but just not with all of the special sounds!

And for Buzz... we really liked the quacking, but I think that people thought I was crazy repeatedly pressing the "GREAT SERVICE" AKA Change Button just to keep it quacking! Maybe I have gone QUACKers!!

CH

[brichter]

You Qwazy Qwacker!

[Yoeddy1]

why not try removing the MMLII board and try it.

Well, I went in the other direction -- I had an unused DSV00042 in the third machine I bought (I haven't even turned that one on yet), so I "borrowed" that SIMM and put it in the whump, whump, whump machine.  The sound was really muddy at first, but then I went through and changed the settings to stereo, and enhanced reel spin sounds, rollup, etc.  Wow!  It's fantastic!  All the speakers work on that machine, and it sounds great!  I can hear just the slightest bit of "static" when the machine is idle -- I suppose a 10 ohm resistor along with a slight increase in volume would cover that up, but even right now it sounds fantastic -- I didn't realize that S2000 machines sounded that good!

On top of it all, while noodling around I got to hear quite a bit of the rollup tune, as I hit a 3000 credit award!  I took a picture and will post it in the 'best slot hits' category.

So, for what it's worth, on an S2000 machine with a 504 B board and a multimedia lite board with no SIMM, installing a SIMM will remove the whump, whump, whump sound.

It seems to be working fine, but how do I determine if I'm using the correct sound SIMM with my kit (it's a 2 coin White Stars game -- and I stole the SIMM from a 3 coin White Ice game)?


Buzz- Just saw your post as I was posting -- thanks for the suggestion.  It sounded like the noise was coming from the speakers, but now with the sound SIMM in there it's gone.

K+ to you and Wayne for the suggestions.

Kevin,

The White Stars and White Ice games should have the 42 sound SIMM as it is universal in all regular themed games. It will work in specialized theme games as well, but just not with all of the special sounds!

And for Buzz... we really liked the quacking, but I think that people thought I was crazy repeatedly pressing the "GREAT SERVICE" AKA Change Button just to keep it quacking! Maybe I have gone QUACKers!!

CH

CH are you saying that a 42 SIMM would work in specialized themes?  ie. my BTP?  There would be sounds missing like voices, etc, but, would reel spin, roll-up sounds etc be there?  You know me, I like to tinker. 

Are these the sounds of a 42 SIMM?  I'd love to test this "Franken-S2000" concept, if it won't do any harm to my machine. 


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[CaptainHappy]

Jason,

Yes you would get some enhanced, but not specialized sounds. It would be better than not having a sound simm at all. Go for it is what I say!

CH

[Yoeddy1]

For the record, a DSV00042 in a Big Times Pay is a waste, stick with the DSV00051.

One thing I am still unclear about is the "better" fix of a 504b board as IFFV68 stated.  He claimed that he bought a 504b board, but still had resistors on the speakers?  If the resistor modification is removed from the speakers with the 504b, is the static/noise still gone?  I'm just trying to understand how this is a "better" fix, because my 504a board has the same resistors applied and it sounds great and has no static coming through now.

Thanks,
Jason

[Brianzz]

I have a 504B board with no resistors at all in it and have no problems with hum.. every great once in awhile when there's a lot of sounds playing, ie during a bonus, I'll get a little hint of static but it's hardly noticeable.

[knagl]

On my machines with good sound, they have the 504B boards with no resistors and they're set to volume 1.  If I listen closely I can hear a tiny bit of hissing.  I suspect that installing the resistors would let me increase the volume beyond 1 and still get good sound, perhaps cutting down on the hissing.  The noise is barely noticeable, however, so I don't plan on doing that anytime soon.

[brichter]

So who sells 504B boards?

[IFFV68]

The D.D.haywire machine came with a 502 board & I had the static sound. I installed the resistors & the static went away. Then I received the newer 502 board modified to be like the 504b. I installed that & left the resistors in place.
I don't really know if that was a better fix, I do know that I have zero static on all speakers. The 504b is the way to go, especially with enhanced sound. I also have the 0042 chip.

hope this may help.
IFFV68

[Foster]

Look for the S2000 boards from Slot Parts Store on ebay
I got fairly reasonable with nice strips and IGT ROM's on the board. the VS chip  in the board is the VS011NX5. I have not swapped my 11GX1 version in yet.

[stayouttadabunker]

BY the way, these are the Version chips I know of >>>

The version PROM controls what is available to meet special jurisdictional
requirements and controls what certain features and options are available.
The label indicates STEPPER VERSION and the version number:
 
VERSION    DESCRIPTION     
VS011CX0    single denomination –Colorado ONLY     
VS011CX1    multi-denomination –Colorado ONLY     
VS011GX0    single denomination     
VS011GX1    multi-denomination     
VS011GX2    multi-denomination with denomination-plus mode     
VS011GX3    multi-denomination with fractional-cent     
VS011IH0    single denomination –Netherlands ONLY     
VS011IH1    multi-denomination –Netherlands ONLY     
VS011IX0    single denomination –International     
VS011IX1    multi-denomination –International     
VS011NX4   single denomination –New Jersey ONLY     
VS011NX5    multi-denomination –New Jersey ONLY   

[staz]

get a enhanced board like this..... the sound is awsum on it no hissing at all......

[DAVEdetroit]

RE:
47 Ohm VS 47K Ohm Resistors.

47 Ohm--Is Just That--47 Ohms.

47K Is 47 THOUSAND Ohms.
The "K" Means--Thousand
Needless To Say--The 47 Ohm--Is Probably The Right Choice.
I Have Not Tried The "Hum Modification" But I Doubt If You Could Hear ANYTHING With 47 THOUSAND Ohms Blocking The Audio Signal.
 

[stayouttadabunker]

DAVEdetroit,
If you re-read this thread - you'll find that the 10 Ohm resistors works best.
I have 47 Ohm resistors because that was all I could find at the time.
However, I got lucky and they work okay too...

[Yoeddy1]

47's work great in mine as well.  Not a single hiss nor hum.

[IFFV68]

STAZ,

Is that a photo of a 044 Board?
My 044 Board  has the six screws attaching the daughter Board.
My 504-b Board has two screws.

[staz]

i think it is, i knew it as a enhanced board....

[CaptainHappy]

STAZ,

Is that a photo of a 044 Board?
My 044 Board  has the six screws attaching the daughter Board.
My 504-b Board has two screws.

Short answer... NO, but close...

It is the S2000 Enhanced MPU Board (Some call it the 127 or 1270 board) with the Legacy Adapter Board that allows you to use standard S2000 Eprom games and sound simm. (No more MMLBII board needed!) There is also another board that can be plugged into the place of the legacy board that is a flash board that is called an "R" board. It is factory flashed with a dedicated game, and it is the S2000 version of the similar design flash board that goes on to a iGame 044 MPU board.

CaptainHappy

[stayouttadabunker]

Where are these nickname numbers (044, 127) coming from?
The IGT part NO# that's etched onto the board?
or from something that's printed onto the top of a chip?

[a69mopar]

they are from part nimbers, eg. Game King 75704400. There are also 04401, 04402 and likely more...  The "044" board is for the iGame and not the s2000.  I have seen S2000 enhanced boards listed as "S2000 044 board"  which is incorrect.

W

[stayouttadabunker]

Thanks Mopar! I was wondering about that. 

[Foster]

What about the Motherboards for the 044 and 1270 boards are they the same?

[IFFV68]

My tray board Assy # is 7551270. It has the moving handle on it.  I thought this was the 044 board.

I believe the board that goes on top with the sound Sims  is, Assy. # 7682810. I believe this is the Daughter Board.

Does this sound right.