Help getting started with a Mikohn Supreme setup...

[StatFreak]

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<edit> Removed the attachments because I figured they would end up on fea-bay.
           Anyone else needs a copy PM me.

I can't say that I blame you. It's a shame when one or two bad apples ruin it for everyone else.


<PS> I'll send you 20% of the net of every copy I sell.  

[knagl]

Progress update:

We tried a different Supreme from the same batch of machines with a different version U3 chip.  Same boot sequence as indicated in the video above.  Same final screen "Invalid Command...".  Also, moving the SW2 switch to the "configure" setting on that Supreme also does not do anything.  Additionally, that Supreme shows a GRADR of zero on boot-up.

For kicks, I tried removing every socketed chip and the main fuse.  I left them all out for 30 seconds then replaced them all, being careful to replace them all in the same sockets and the correct direction.  No change -- same boot sequence and results.


Hold the phone!!!  Great progress just now!

Don't ask me what prompted me to do this, but I connected it to the computer again and tried the birth command again.  Nothing -- the Supreme rebooted and I was back where I started.  I moved the configuration switch, held down both SW3 and SW4 and ran the birth command again from HyperTerminal.  This time instead of just rebooting, it gave me messages about erasing the FLASH memory and writing, erasing, checking, writing, erasing, writing, checking, etc.  It did that about five times, showed some flash errors on the display, and then came up into the configuration menu!

(Edited to add: Apparently it wasn't HyperTerminal's birth command, but rather just the fact that it rebooted the board while I was holding those switches that did it.  I had to erase the flash memory again after screwing up a background.bat file which locked it up, and moving the switch (unknown if it's even necessary) and holding both buttons while applying power did the trick to get it to format itself again.)

I was able to page through and change the group address ID and do other configuration stuff.  When I exited out (with the switch), the display showed me a nice big $0.00, alternating with "C1".  ...and then after about 20 seconds an animated "Mikohn" and "Gaming" screen!

I'm off to see if the Windows Download program will talk to it now.  Wish me luck!

For anyone interested, here's what the HyperTerminal display showed me during the process:

Code:

 SSS   U   U  PPPP  EEEEE  RRRR      CCC  H   H   AAA  M   M                                                            
S      U   U  P   P E      R   R    C     H   H  A   A MM MM                                                            
 SS    U   U  PPPP  EEE    RRRR     C     HHHHH  AAAAA M M M                                                            
   S   U   U  P     E      R R      C     H   H  A   A M   M                                                            
SSS     UUUU  P     EEEEE  R  R      CCC  H   H  A   A M   M                                                            

Version = CSM 2.10                  
Speed   = 39997355                  
GETTING CRC           
CHKDSK Drive A:               

Building Sat            
Building Fat            
DRIVE A: had 0 error(s) corrected.                                  

Building Sat            
Building Fat            
DRIVE B: had 0 error(s) corrected.                                  
CHKDSK Drive B:               

Building Sat            
Building Fat            
DRIVE B: had 0 error(s) corrected.                                  
CHKDSK Drive C:               

Building Sat            
Building Fat            
DRIVE C: had 0 error(s) corrected.                                  
ROMTEST ................OK                          
     cls   Clears the screen.                             
    time   Display or Set the TIME.                                   
    date   Display or Set the DATE.                                   
   birth   Initialize system.                             
  status   Display system status.                                 
  state2   Display EEPROM contents.                                   
   setc1   Set C1 to not show.                              
 commtime   Set the time for C1 time-out.                                         
  noload   Set LOADING to not show.                                   
 version   Print the current version number.                                            
COMMAND -->birth                
PoClearing FLASH                
Clea    



 SSS   U   U  PPPP  EEEEE  RRRR      CCC  H   H   AAA  M   M                                                            
S      U   U  P   P E      R   R    C     H   H  A   A MM MM                                                            
 SS    U   U  PPPP  EEE    RRRR     C     HHHHH  AAAAA M M M                                                            
   S   U   U  P     E      R R      C     H   H  A   A M   M                                                            
SSS     UUUU  P     EEEEE  R  R      CCC  H   H  A   A M   M                                                            

Version = CSM 2.10                  
Speed   = 39999475                  
System Memory Failure                     
System RAM CRC Failure                      
GETTING CRC           
CHKDSK Drive A:               
Sector    0 has a bad CRC reformatting sector                                             
Building Sat            
Building Fat            
Sector 1 is lost.  Recovering sector.                                     
Sector 2 is lost.  Recovering sector.                                     
Sector 3 is lost.  Recovering sector.                                     
Sector 4 is lost.  Recovering sector.                                     
Sector 5 is lost.  Recovering sector.                                     
Sector 6 is lost.  Recovering sector.                                     
Sector 7 is lost.  Recovering sector.                                     
Sector 8 is lost.  Recovering sector.                                     
Sector 9 is lost.  Recovering sect                                
Sector 10 is lost.  Recovering sector.                                      
Sector 11 is lost.  Recovering sector.                                      
Sector 12 is lost.  Recovering sector.                                      
Sector 13 is lost.  Recovering sector.                                      
Sector 14 is lost.  Recovering sector.                                      
Sector 15 is lost.  Recovering sector.                                      
DRIVE A: had 16 error(s) corrected.                                   
Sector    0 has a bad CRC reformatting sector                                             
Erasing Flash.              
Making Boot Sector.                   
Writing zero sector                   
Formatting FINISHED                   
Building Fat            
Building Sat
Building Fat
CHKDSK Drive B:

Building Sat
Building Fat
DRIVE B: had 0 error(s) corrected.
CHKDSK Drive C:

Building Sat
Building Fat
DRIVE C: had 0 error(s) corrected.
ROMTEST ................OK
     cls   Clears the screen.
    time   Display or Set the TIME.
    date   Display or Set the DATE.
   birth   Initialize system.
  status   Display system status.
  state2   Display EEPROM contents.
   setc1   Set C1 to not show.
 commtime   Set the time for C1 time-out.
  noload   Set LOADING to not show.
 version   Print the current version number.
COMMAND -->

[knagl]

Success with Windows Download!  It talks to it.  It's ALIVE!!!! 


So... now what?   

I'm at the point that I don't know how to program the thing!  I'll do my best to dig through the huge thread here, but any starting tips would be great.

Is there a tutorial anywhere for just having it display a simple message?  This board (for now) will not be hooked up to a machine, and I don't want it to always flash "C1" and a $0.00 jackpot.  Any suggestions of what to do now?

Also, does anyone have any neat 1x1 graphics?

Thanks again to everyone who has helped or offered suggestions thus far.

Edited to add: Do I want to have this thing set to save to the RAM Drive or the FLASH Drive?

[knagl]

Here I go replying to my own messages again...

Anyhoo, I've come a long way, baby.  </Virginia Slims>

<a href="http://v4.tinypic.com/player.swf?file=2vl62pg&amp;s=4" target="_blank"><a href="http://v4.tinypic.com/player.swf?file=2vl62pg&amp;s=4" target="_blank">http://v4.tinypic.com/player.swf?file=2vl62pg&amp;s=4</a></a>

Again, awful cellphone video, but you can get the gist.  Here's where I'm at now, and could use some input from the Supreme folks in the group:

- Is there anything more with text that can be done that I'm not doing (side-to-side scrolling like a standard LED message board, other types of animated text, etc.)?

- Can anyone please, PLEASE point me in the direction of any 1x1 animations?

Thanks!

[Ron (r273)]

    Knagl!

Boy you have put a lot of work into that! Jay or Jeff may have some input
on animations.

I wish I could be able to program
a message in my CHAMII+, only get the jackpot.

Thanks for posting the video.

Ron

[stayouttadabunker]

I think it's fantastic knagl!
It's amazingly tough work to figure out stuff like that and
congrats man!
You'll be answering a lot of your own posts
because you're way ahead of anyone on this one!

[kenokarz]

  k plus to you on this as always, your so much smarter than us old guys, 

[StatFreak]

Kevin, I know that you're waiting for someone to post to help you with the next step, but I thought I'd add my 2¢ and congratulate you on all that you've accomplished and give you another K+.

[stayouttadabunker]

knagl needs help with 1x1 animations! Idesugn! Jay! Westec! Please Help!!!

[jay]

I am a con1 guy and can help on the interface side a bit along with the older slots but know little about the CON2 animation.

[knagl]

Thanks, everyone for the congrats and kind words!  Trust me, I had a huge smile on my face last night when I got it to work!

I wish I could be able to program
a message in my CHAMII+, only get the jackpot.

Ron- Are you not able to program a custom message into your ChamII+?  I got mine programmed a while back and would be happy to try and help you with yours.  It'd be a good excuse for me to get back into it as the battery died on my ChamII+ and I need to re-program mine anyway.

[knagl]

Whaddya know, some Mikohn animation files magically appeared in my e-mail box.  Thanks to whomever was responsible for that!   

I did some more tweaking and added some animations (and used a better camera source!):

<a href="http://v4.tinypic.com/player.swf?file=10ngqrm&amp;s=4" target="_blank"><a href="http://v4.tinypic.com/player.swf?file=10ngqrm&amp;s=4" target="_blank">http://v4.tinypic.com/player.swf?file=10ngqrm&amp;s=4</a></a>


On some other members' pictures I've seen scrolling text that goes from right to left like a standard LED message board.  I don't see in the documentation how to do that.  Can anyone lend any insight?  Is that only text within the jpot.do file?  Is the jpot.do file something I can add to my backgrnd.bat file to have play and then put text in the jpot.do file?  Thanks!

[stayouttadabunker]

I think those animations are fantastic 
I wonder if you'd have to add some type of left/right
arrow or symbol into the jpot.do programming lines?

[knagl]

As of right now I'm not even using the jpot.do file (and maybe that's my problem?).  I'm just using TEXT commands from a couple of text files that are triggered by the backgrnd.bat file.  Do I need to use PSP to work on the jpot.do file?  Am I going to deal with C1 errors since it's not hooked up to anything?  ...and do I add something to my backgrnd.bat file to make it "play" the jpot.do file?

[brichter]

You'll have C1 errors until you get a progressive controller, but you can turn the "Display C1" parameter off in the configuration so it will only show the $0.00 when it tries to display the progressive.

You'd really be better off buying a CON2I, you know you want one now...

[CaptainHappy]

Looking like some serious progress!!!! 

CH

[knagl]

You'll have C1 errors until you get a progressive controller, but you can turn the "Display C1" parameter off in the configuration so it will only show the $0.00 when it tries to display the progressive.

Do you have to display the progressive amount in the jpot.do file?  I mean, I realize that normally that'd be the point, but it is a requirement?  ...and if not, is that how I can get scrolling (right to left) text?  Also, does that get triggered to run by the backgrnd.bat file, or does it just run on its own at random on top of that, or does it replace it?  As a side note, I saw the "don't show C1" in the manual, but it's not an option on this Supreme.  I'm thinking maybe the software is too old -- it's running 2.10 right now, but I'm meeting up with Kenokarz later today and he has a chip that's 3-point-something.

You'd really be better off buying a CON2I, you know you want one now...

You're right about that, but I'm about to shell out $1400 on a pinball machine in great condition -- right now that seems like a better use of that kind of money than a small black metal box. 

Looking like some serious progress!!!!

Indeed, thanks!

[brichter]

PM sent

[icu44444]

hi
i got ahold of some of these small adapter boards. i was sold them as a package deal which came with a konami topper called mystery rewards. this topper has 2 display meters in it. large and medium size. forgot the cell it was 12 i believe. but anyhow, it came with the controller you have in your pic. chamii + i believe, the square card, bunch of cables, top box power supply and smaller one for the square board, tons of cables. from what i have read the cable look like they go to a kanomi slot and it linked a bank of slots together. what i am thinking is the small adapter card is for the mystery topper to interface into the slot machine and generates a random number or similar that selects a random symbol pattern from the slot and stores it for the mystery jackpot and keeps in check with the slot to see if and when that pattern hits. if it does then the card communicates this to the progressive link maybe to a supercontroller or maincontroller of a bank of linked prgressives. or its a card that allows a standalone progressive to be put on a slot and with a random number generator this card holds that info and when that pattern is displayed on screen the random jackpot is awarded the player. anybody ever seen the mystery rewards topper in place at a casino anywhere?
kevin

[icu44444]

my post was before noticing pages 2 thru 4 existed. didnt read all of it but if card was covered then disregard my last reply of course. also where can i find those animation scenes i saw on one of the pages skimming. are they available in download section?
kevin

[knagl]

Kevin-

The controller card in this thread is a Supreme controller, not a ChamII+.  From afar they look similar, but they are not at all the same, and the programming methods and animations for the Supreme do not apply to a ChamII+.  You cannot add animated graphics to a ChamII+.

As you hopefully discovered on the earlier pages, the extra square board is related to the linked jackpot bonusing system.  It is an interface between the Supreme (or in your case, ChamII+) and another controller that would link all of the slots in a bank together.  The dip switches on that small board are used (in part, at least) to assign a machine number to each slot in the bank.

The Konami Mystery Rewards thing is a local area mystery progressive.  You'd have a bank of eight or ten machines (or whatever you want, but this was the setup I saw in the casino).  The lower progressive meter would reset to $5.00, and would hit by $20.00.  The upper progressive would have its own base amount (let's say $50), and would hit by a certain amount (let's say $200).  In a mystery progressive, the controller picks a number within its range (somewhere between $5 and $20 for the lower one -- let's say it picked $12.87).  Once the progressive reaches that level, it is awarded, the current level resets to its base amount, and a new mystery amount within the pre-set range is selected.  Every coin put in the machines in the bank would contribute to the progressive meters.  If the person playing machine 6 drops the coin that pushes the meter to $12.87, the jackpot would be awarded to that player.


Okay, with all that out of the way, if your controller is in fact a ChamII+ (it has to have the "plus") then you can hook it up to a machine as a stand-alone controller.  You won't be able to do the mystery jackpot as I described above, but you should be able to configure it as a dual-level traditional progressive meter.  Information about how to do that can be found in other ChamII+ threads in the Mikohn section, or worst case you can create a new thread for your ChamII+ meters.

[memusa]

Don't you have any extra supremes for sale?

[AussieBob]

Good day to all
I have just acquired a system with a supreme ligic board and 2 displays each 2x2 and I would like to use them not as agaming device but as a notice board for my Scouting events. ie as a welcome sign, a message board etc.  I have a good electronics and computer background and already have a lower resolution unit used in a TV studio as an applause sign etc.  I've interfaced it to an atmel microcontroller and a laptop which works well.  But... this unit looks a whole lot better and so my request for manuals and software to drive the unit would be appreciated.  I wonder if anyone could steer me in the right direction.  Thanks

[stayouttadabunker]

Sit back for this...you might have a lot to learn...
I'd like you to get yourself familiar with your equipment first.
Read everything thing you can by first typing in "supreme" in the search box
next to the "Home" and "Help" boxes upstairs. ^^^
Up comes various topics and threads about the supreme.
You need to read some of this to get a better understanding.

The second file down in the "Submit A New File" is the PSP V2.0 program
which works best with older XP or windows 98 computers - is something else you'll need.

You will also need the "Supreme" manual.
You need to take a couple of high-resolution pictures of the back of your displays and
post them so we can be sure you have the right display panels.

Board numbers of everything, pictures, existing power supplies and harnesses.

We also need a good picture of the "Supreme" board you have...there are a couple of different versions.
Power supplies and harnesses - you have these yet?
Your pictures that you post will help us tell yo which ones you need.
Remember, the more you show and tell us - the most information you will get!

and a warm Welcome to New Life Games! You can stay but you may never leave...LOL

[stayouttadabunker]

Does it look like this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270499643326