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AussieBob
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« Reply #75 on: December 21, 2009, 05:43:14 PM »

G'day again
Thanks for your prompting but no .. Let me explain both our cameras are on holidays at the moment and should be returning in the next couple of days with their owner - my son. I'll be able to get pics then but also then it'll be Xmas so we'll be quite busy around then too. Bear with me. I have found a diagram of the Supreme board on another post and checked it with mine and found the Board Identification is the same P/N 321-035-00 Rev F. Cycle Stealer Supreme - with a Made in Australia on the back
In the mean time I've traced out the display board IC pin by pin  and now have a pretty good circuit diagram of it and also an undrstanding of how it works. I'm nearly convinced to build another controller with a micro I bought from Futurelec in Thailand so I'm really interested in the Input pin numbering to the display board and the signal timing and also the data structure/protocol.

I'll send you some pics asap
Thanks for your help and have a Merry Christmas
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« Reply #76 on: December 22, 2009, 01:03:33 AM »

G'day again from sunny Sydney (temp 95 degrees F)
The logic board is the same as the diagram shown on page one of this topic
I tried communicating with the Supreme again - this time with pins 1 and 5 on the RS 232 cable shorted.  OK the controller responds to a CR sent from my computer but after about 5 seconds I get an ANSI ERROR message??!!??
The Supreme does not recognise any other ascii codes being sent to it - it doesn't respond to a ? but on ONE occasion it did respond and came back with a list of functions such as Time and Date among others - but only once.  So I guess I'm not sending the right codes/commands.  Do you have a listing that I could use please? Also I'm not using the PSP program as it didn't seem to work - instead I'm using an RS232 analyser prog and can see all the comings and goings as well as displaying text
Hope you can help with a bit more info
Thanks Bob
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« Reply #77 on: December 22, 2009, 01:51:04 AM »

Bob-

Greetings from Minnesota, USA, where it's about 20 degrees F.

Try connecting to it via HyperTerminal in Windows using the instructions found here:

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=146.msg996#msg996

Make sure that the Supreme is set to a baud rate of 9600 (use the configuration slider switch and the buttons to access the menu in the Supreme to access that setting, then move the configuration slider switch back to the normal position to save your changes).

While you can't program the sign via HyperTerminal (not easily, at least), you can get into its "operating system" and see the files on there.  It's a DOS-like language that it uses, and has an "a" "b" and "c" "drive" that you can access.

Once you have good communication in HyperTerminal, try using the Windows Download program (not PSP) to talk to it and program it.
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« Reply #78 on: December 22, 2009, 02:15:25 AM »

Where is the Windows download program? I got the PSP prog from the submit a new file area but there didn't seem to be any other appropriate files
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« Reply #79 on: December 22, 2009, 03:06:43 AM »

PM me your email and I'll send my copy of the Mikohn Downloader program folder to you!
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« Reply #80 on: January 12, 2010, 01:13:33 PM »

Hi all,
SIB2 is casinolink to Con2 protocol converter, It uses to transfer mystery JP infomation from casinolink PGIC to player note PC or Con2 to dispay MJP value.
It uses RS485 communication for Con2 and RS232 for player note PC. The 27c512 eprom is stand for protocols
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« Reply #81 on: February 03, 2010, 07:10:14 PM »

knagl,
I'm stuck in "invalid command" on the display and
cannot get the into the configurations either.
I've held the 2 buttons down and took a peek at
the Hyperterminal screen and got a lot of what you had posted up above.

At the bottom of the Hyper screen, I have an option to type in a command.
What did you type in there and send to the Supreme board - "birth"?
ADD>>
Okay, I figured out the birth part but how do I get the configuration switch to work?

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/BaJPHtooj18&rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/BaJPHtooj18&rel=0</a>
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« Reply #82 on: February 03, 2010, 08:09:04 PM »

Okay, I figured out how to get the configurations switches to work...lol
Basically, with the HyperTerminal still in readiness and the serial cable (w/pins 1-5 jumped)
 I removed the power cord and held down the 2 buttons
on the board while plugging back in to power cord...
everything then happened as Knagl described in his earlier posts!
Now, all I gotta do is hook up a machine...
if anybody knows which pins on the board go to which pins on the machine -
that would be awesome!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/ivGpKoW7S0E&rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/ivGpKoW7S0E&rel=0</a>
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« Reply #83 on: February 03, 2010, 08:27:00 PM »

Sorry, Bunker, I meant to send you a link to the reset procedure that I figured out.  I actually intentionally didn't reset it so you could see how it worked.

You don't need to have the serial cable connected to do it, but it (obviously) will work with it.  For future reference, here's how to zap the RAM and get it back to factory defaults:
http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=6070.msg53953#msg53953

I'll send you some animations that I created and found on the uncleared controllers -- give me a day or so, as they're on a different computer.


Now, all I gotta do is hook up a machine...
if anybody knows which pins on the board go to which pins on the machine -
that would be awesome!


The Supreme isn't a stand-alone progressive controller.  It requires a CON1 or a CON2 to do progressive stuff.  It can, however, display text and animations and whatnot on its own, without a controller.
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« Reply #84 on: February 03, 2010, 11:21:19 PM »

It was actually kinda scary when I first saw the board
displaying that it was wiping out the flash...
so I quickly darted over to reread your posts from like two
pages back to see that yours re-flashed itself like about 5 times.
Whew!  Tongue Out
I'll play with it some more during the week and am happy to get
it this far as I just opened up the package a few hours ago...
I was like a kid at Christmas!...lol
Now, I have nearly all the different forms of Mikohn boards and
display panels in my collection.
I'm  just waiting for two more to add to it - The rare AGL Logic board
and the long awaited CHAM3!
This has got to stop!!!   rotflmao
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chosmer
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« Reply #85 on: April 16, 2010, 03:59:52 PM »

Here I go replying to my own messages again...

Anyhoo, I've come a long way, baby.  </Virginia Slims>

<a href="http://v4.tinypic.com/player.swf?file=2vl62pg&amp;s=4" target="_blank"><a href="http://v4.tinypic.com/player.swf?file=2vl62pg&amp;s=4" target="_blank">http://v4.tinypic.com/player.swf?file=2vl62pg&amp;s=4</a></a>

Again, awful cellphone video, but you can get the gist.  Here's where I'm at now, and could use some input from the Supreme folks in the group:

- Is there anything more with text that can be done that I'm not doing (side-to-side scrolling like a standard LED message board, other types of animated text, etc.)?

- Can anyone please, PLEASE point me in the direction of any 1x1 animations?


Thanks!


Ok how did you program the message in?
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« Reply #86 on: April 16, 2010, 04:11:03 PM »

Well, after watching that video again, I figured out you need to set the MFILE = JPOT.DO 
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« Reply #87 on: April 16, 2010, 05:22:49 PM »

I believe a lot of it has to do with drawing animations in a software program,
converting it to a file that the Mikohn Supreme board understands and
uploading it to the flash memory on the driver board.
I've had no luck or time trying to figure that all out.  no
Good Luck to ya!
There's a lot of reading to digest on these units.

Go to the "Submit A New File" section of NLG and download a copy of the Supreme manual.
There will be more information in there you need to read up on programming messages.
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« Reply #88 on: August 21, 2010, 06:30:51 AM »

You generate a *.flc file and convert it with flc2mik.exe.  I define a phantom row at the bottom for various reasons including the animation program I use (e.g. a 1x1 is "panel 0 1 2").  Also the old Storeyboard can be used.  Some of my old 1x1 are attached.

* 1x1-MIKs.zip (49.11 KB - downloaded 328 times.)
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« Reply #89 on: August 21, 2010, 11:21:16 AM »

Hey McCackie! wave
That's awesome!  applause applause applause
Where were ya when we were trying to figure this stuff out last year???!! Tongue Out
I have the IBM storyboard software but it's so ancient! banghead

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« Reply #90 on: August 21, 2010, 12:02:25 PM »

It may be old but for serveral applications it is best.  For a simple text based message such as the Jackpot range (we use Mystery a lot here) it is great (up to 2x2 size), also such as a band down the edge of the screen (attached) it is ideal (invoke via the TEMPLATE command within the *.PDF) and I have used it for custom $ signs.


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« Reply #91 on: August 21, 2010, 12:25:51 PM »

Yes It is good for Mystery JP!


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« Reply #92 on: August 21, 2010, 12:46:13 PM »

Much more impact for your 4 level, 2x3 display to set it up as "panel 0 3 3" and then define the PDF much as :-
_________
W0:0,0,116,16,1,5,C:CHAR16.FNT,/O5+
W1:0,17,116,33,0,4,C:CHAR16.FNT,/O5+
W2:116,0,180,16,3,2,C:blo16.FNT,/O5+
W3:116,17,180,33,4,3,C:blo16.fnt,/O5+
________
You see I drop the bottom edge of the jackpot window off the display as W1 and W3 have a y2 value of 33.  This allows me to use a 16 high font, as the BLO16 is really only 15 high none notice, anyway with a CHAR16 it only clips the bottom.

Dont forget to check the error.log in drive A: of the Supreme, it tells you where many mistakes are when updated.  Just make sure to delete it before you start.  Read it by entering via Hyperterminal "a:" and then "type error.log" if it is there.


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« Reply #93 on: October 20, 2010, 08:10:57 AM »

Hi All,

Thanks for all the great posts Smiley from reading them alone i was able to revive a sign with the grafics and pieces i had pulled off a couple old controllers. I went to the download area to get the Supreme manual and poke around but the page is finished loading and blank  Scratch Head is there a number of posts i need to make or something before i get access to that area ?
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« Reply #94 on: October 20, 2010, 09:56:51 AM »

The download page has been down for some time, software glitch. If you post what you're needing I'm sure someone will email or post it in a message back to you
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« Reply #95 on: October 20, 2010, 10:02:01 AM »

I think you mentioned you needed this...............

* Supreme Display User Manual.pdf (357.25 KB - downloaded 1122 times.)
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« Reply #96 on: November 08, 2010, 01:25:13 AM »

This may be a useful manual for the Windows Download.  A laptop today can easily run 2 of USB<>RS232 divices.  Just start the first DOWNLOAD session and then edit the File "DL-Settings.dat" in the Download directory with Notepad and change (and save) the first value, either 1 or 2 for COM 1 or COM2 and start the second session.  Details are COMMA delimited.

File content (example):
" 2 , #FALSE#,  1 ,  1 , #TRUE#, #TRUE#, c:\Dee\DOWNLOAD\2x2\Menai-Club_9.5-10k&300-500\10Aug10,  9600 "
  ^Com Port      ^   ^ the GRADR and IDADR
      1 or 2

PS: Also iff you have large files you can download in via the J3 port at 19,200 baud using a USB<>422 dongle.


* Download_for_Windows_v2_0_99024118.pdf (365.59 KB - downloaded 424 times.)
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« Reply #97 on: February 14, 2011, 02:42:19 PM »

i am looking for the MIKOHN downloader software can any one help

              Thanks
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« Reply #98 on: February 14, 2011, 05:53:41 PM »

i am looking for the MIKOHN downloader software can any one help

              Thanks

Look in the "submit a new file" above.

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« Reply #99 on: February 14, 2011, 10:45:20 PM »

DOWNLOAD FOR WINDOWS V2.0 Chapter 1
User Manual Overview and Installation
March 6, 2000 2 990-241-18
1.3 Overview of the DOWNLOAD Main Menu Screen
Figure 1.1 shows the DOWNLOAD Main Menu screen with several .fnt file examples in the SUPREME

This is what i am looking for
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