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« Reply #252 on: April 08, 2006, 06:55:19 AM »   

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I see what you are referring to on J1.  You say you have only 10 pins vs. 40.  So with pin 1 being common, and pins 2 thru 8 being NC, you have only pins 9 and 10 to connect machines to the CON2.  Can you flip the PC board over to verify that pins 2 thru 8 have no traces to them.

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« Reply #253 on: April 08, 2006, 08:33:47 AM »   

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Tim call me and i can tell you how to fix this .....   this is a old mikohn trick   

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« Reply #254 on: April 08, 2006, 11:06:56 AM »   

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Thanks everybody!.................I will try to call Joey later on..........but.......I have lost my voice! Half of my employees this week have been sick this week, coughing in my face....so I knew that I was going to get this one. So don't be surprised if I tend to sound a little squeaky!
Well.........Thats a relief!     Sounds like Joey has the cure!  I'M STILL GONA GET IT GOING! Well...sooner or later. Still a couple of more hours in my wood shop left for today, so I will give Joey a buzz and if I the fumes from the 5 gallons of lacquer that I'M spraying today don't totally blow my mind, hopefully I can put Joey's good advice to use. I usually go flying on sunday morning but with this bad cold........I must ground myself.......so that frees up time to play with the Mikohn stuff!  Well......lunch break is just about over.....Thanks again!    Tim

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« Reply #255 on: April 08, 2006, 11:43:41 AM »   

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Guinnea Pig, ERRRRRRRRR....AAAAAAAH.......UUHH....OOPS I mean: TIM,

You better drink some OJ, take vitamins, whatever as we need you to be at full strength! You need to figure everything out, get it hooked up, and then documented with photos for each and every step so that all of the people out there (tons of em, right! Think of this task as a public service announcement.) with CON2I's can easily follow your lead!  (Like step 1 take a valium with Ozzy's favorite Vodka, take picture , step 2 go to garage and get screwdriver, photo , step 3 repeat step 1, photo , step 4 go back to garage for wire strippers, photo , step 5 repeat step 1, photo ........ Do we see a pattern forming here. It should help keep the anxiety down!) We can't have you down and in bed, enless of course it is a cot in your game room office!   

Seriously, I hope that you take it easy and nip this thing in the bud. I hope you feel better! Being sick sucks!

For those of you out there that do not know us, I am not really such a   , and Tim is probably laughing away at the inside jokes and humor! Hopefully it cheers him up! Someday they will get broadband to the poor guy with all the cool toys, and we can watch the video when he goes skeet shooting with his   MODEM

   

I can't wait to get a package! Worst case is that I will not be able to get to it for a long long while! Such a bad month with Taxes, and associated accounting crap!       Calgon take me away.       

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« Reply #257 on: April 08, 2006, 03:04:06 PM »   

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I have these units in large progressive units, but i also have one just in a box. Can anyone tell me what it is? I have seen them hooked up with the supreme controllers on the Cham 2 meters before. April

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« Reply #258 on: April 08, 2006, 03:07:13 PM »   

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Here is another mystery. I have this unit brand new in a box. Both boards are the same. One has never been opened out of the package. The other was opened to look at. The CD software is still in original packaging. The box is from Comtrol. Any ideas? 

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« Reply #259 on: April 08, 2006, 05:28:17 PM »   

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Quote from: lemans1969 on April 08, 2006, 03:04:06 PM
I have these units in large progressive units, but i also have one just in a box. Can anyone tell me what it is? I have seen them hooked up with the supreme controllers on the Cham 2 meters before. April

April,

WHat are the connections on this box? The cable looks like the type used for power. MK1 may be an abbreviation for MARK1, which is a graphics display. There are some references to MARK1 in the con2 hardware manual, but nothing really goes in to too much specifics.

Page 5 as displayed on manual pages, not adobe page 5 briefly mentions MARK1
Page 17 as displayed on manual pages, not adobe page 17 briefly mentions MARK1

ADP-S connection cable is shown in appendix G. But no clue to what ADP-S is.
ADP-S may stand for ANIMATION DISPLAY ___________ -__________ I would have to guess that this is needed with big displays and supreme contollers to do the Animation Functions, and to connect with CHAMII for progressive functions, otherwise thje big sign like I am getting may only do progressive meter and not the animation graphics that it should do with the supreme also??? Kinda makes a little sense to me since you have seen it hooked up to Big Displays and Supremes?

I am a novice, we probably need the assistance of the experts here, these are just my guesses. I am not sure what help it is other than an attempt.   

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« Reply #260 on: April 08, 2006, 06:58:19 PM »   

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Quote from: Jay on April 08, 2006, 01:09:37 PM
If we did things up right we would all install security dome cameras with live web feeds to NLG. Then if we needed help with a setup we could just rewind the security feeds.

But who gets to turn in the tape to America's funniest videos and win the 1st prize?   We could start our own TV show.............. Progressives.................the final frontier............these are the members of the NLG.......It's on going mission.........to explore strange new displays..............to boldly go were no N-L-G member has been before....................CON TREK!     We already have the Captain.........................Joey ..Scotty, head engineer...........Ozzy...Mr Spock..................Jay...Dr McCoy...........................

Joey.......................If you are reading all this BS.............I will call you tomorrow...the voice is GONE!

Live long and prosper......................Tim   

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« Reply #261 on: April 08, 2006, 09:36:17 PM »   

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Quote from: cessnac182golf on April 08, 2006, 06:58:19 PM
Quote from: Jay on April 08, 2006, 01:09:37 PM
If we did things up right we would all install security dome cameras with live web feeds to NLG. Then if we needed help with a setup we could just rewind the security feeds.

But who gets to turn in the tape to America's funniest videos and win the 1st prize?   We could start our own TV show.............. Progressives.................the final frontier............these are the members of the NLG.......It's on going mission.........to explore strange new displays..............to boldly go were no N-L-G member has been before....................CON TREK!     We already have the Captain.........................Joey ..Scotty, head engineer...........Ozzy...Mr Spock..................Jay...Dr McCoy...........................

Joey.......................If you are reading all this BS.............I will call you tomorrow...the voice is GONE!

Live long and prosper......................Tim   

Tim,

So does that mean that you would be either Sulu or Checkov?? I think both of them flew the enterpise if memory serves me correctly?? I think as far as I know you would be the only one qualified to Pilot the starship.... Though with all of the gamers we have here, some may think they can fly cause they played flight simulator!

I just got off of the phone with Joey, and he said to tell you that the problem can be solved with some soldering, part stuffing, and connector changing. I guess Mikon sold some less expensive units that were "standalone" by altering a full unit and not populating some parts. So it requires a little work and Joey's knowledge to get them converted to the full unit. He said to give him a call when your voice gets better.

Go to be early and rest up. Hope you feel better!
 

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« Reply #262 on: April 09, 2006, 09:46:45 AM »   

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Quote from: captainhappy on April 08, 2006, 05:28:17 PM
Quote from: lemans1969 on April 08, 2006, 03:04:06 PM
I have these units in large progressive units, but i also have one just in a box. Can anyone tell me what it is? I have seen them hooked up with the supreme controllers on the Cham 2 meters before. April

April,

WHat are the connections on this box? The cable looks like the type used for power. MK1 may be an abbreviation for MARK1, which is a graphics display. There are some references to MARK1 in the con2 hardware manual, but nothing really goes in to too much specifics.

Page 5 as displayed on manual pages, not adobe page 5 briefly mentions MARK1
Page 17 as displayed on manual pages, not adobe page 17 briefly mentions MARK1

ADP-S connection cable is shown in appendix G. But no clue to what ADP-S is.
ADP-S may stand for ANIMATION DISPLAY ___________ -__________ I would have to guess that this is needed with big displays and supreme contollers to do the Animation Functions, and to connect with CHAMII for progressive functions, otherwise thje big sign like I am getting may only do progressive meter and not the animation graphics that it should do with the supreme also??? Kinda makes a little sense to me since you have seen it hooked up to Big Displays and Supremes?

I am a novice, we probably need the assistance of the experts here, these are just my guesses. I am not sure what help it is other than an attempt. 

There is a plug on the outside for your 9VDC power supply. Then there is a 8 pin plug on the inside of the box on the board marked J3. The top 4 pins are marked A+ A- B+ B-. There are two connectors for fiber optic cables. The only other thing I see on the board itself is converter/booster. part # 321-006-10. Here is a pic of the actual board. April
 

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« Reply #263 on: April 09, 2006, 01:20:33 PM »   

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Joey......Went to the Doc this morning and got a shot.................voice is comming back but I thought maybe I should first show you what they have done to this board to try to prevent someone like me from doing what we want to do before calling you. Here is a front shot were they have ground through the board leads and the extensive work done on the back. If you feel like this just might be a little too much for a novice, I would be willing to pay you to fix this, pay freight both ways and for all parts. I have 600.00 in it now so I might as well do it right. If you still think that I can do this......................well...GULP...........................................Joey  Me

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« Reply #264 on: April 09, 2006, 01:25:40 PM »   

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Front View................all I really want is to link 6 machines with maybe a 7th and 8th position just in case I decide to knock down a wall or two in the future. I don't need the 24 or 32 machine capacity. Thanks!   Tim

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« Reply #265 on: April 09, 2006, 01:29:40 PM »   

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Quote from: lemans1969 on April 09, 2006, 09:46:45 AM

There is a plug on the outside for your 9VDC power supply. Then there is a 8 pin plug on the inside of the box on the board marked J3. The top 4 pins are marked A+ A- B+ B-. There are two connectors for fiber optic cables. The only other thing I see on the board itself is converter/booster. part # 321-006-10. Here is a pic of the actual board. April

April,

The picture may help Joey, as it is definately his expertise that will be needed here!

Mark, Captainhappy

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« Reply #268 on: April 10, 2006, 02:49:21 PM »   

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Hey There..................Voice is 1/2 back so ...................Joey look out       
Another question.........................as it is right now my Con2I is a standalone with wires for only 1 machine. What would they use this for? Maybe one of those big monster size machines?  Why would they not just use a supreme?  Thanks    Tim

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« Reply #271 on: April 10, 2006, 04:02:46 PM »   

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Quote from: cessnac182golf on April 10, 2006, 02:49:21 PM
Hey There..................Voice is 1/2 back so ...................Joey look out       
Another question.........................as it is right now my Con2I is a standalone with wires for only 1 machine. What would they use this for? Maybe one of those big monster size machines?  Why would they not just use a supreme?  Thanks    Tim

A Supreme is used for a sign only, if you use it with a machine you need a CON2 to drive the meter.

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« Reply #272 on: April 10, 2006, 04:46:49 PM »   

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Hello,

Can I jump in and ask some stupid questions? This thread has been read close to 4,000 times and seems to be of great interest.

1) What is a progressive control?
2) Are you guys setting them up at home?
3) If it is at home, what's the driving force?

Sorry for my ignorance.

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« Reply #273 on: April 10, 2006, 05:02:12 PM »   

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Quote from: idesign on April 10, 2006, 04:02:46 PM
Quote from: cessnac182golf on April 10, 2006, 02:49:21 PM
Hey There..................Voice is 1/2 back so ...................Joey look out       
Another question.........................as it is right now my Con2I is a standalone with wires for only 1 machine. What would they use this for? Maybe one of those big monster size machines?  Why would they not just use a supreme?  Thanks    Tim

A Supreme is used for a sign only, if you use it with a machine you need a CON2 to drive the meter.
The Supreme manual has it doing all kinds of things, running in place of a CHAMII. My board has machine in and out, con2 in and out and display (can drive 4, just like a CHAMII+). 

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« Reply #274 on: April 10, 2006, 05:11:20 PM »   

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Quote from: diecaster on April 10, 2006, 04:46:49 PM
Hello,

Can I jump in and ask some stupid questions? This thread has been read close to 4,000 times and seems to be of great interest.

1) What is a progressive control?
2) Are you guys setting them up at home?
3) If it is at home, what's the driving force?

Sorry for my ignorance.

1) A progressive Controller is the device which gathers the coin in information from multiple games and advances a "progressive" Jackpot count display (often refereed to as a Meter) to be either displayed on a large over head sign, on an In-Machine Display (also called a meter) or both.

2) YES they are!

3) Total Insanity, boredom, trying to out-do the Jone's, bad genes........  Just something else to do once you own a couple of Slot machines.

CJ

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« Reply #275 on: April 10, 2006, 05:16:20 PM »   

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Quote from: diecaster on April 10, 2006, 04:46:49 PM
Hello,

Can I jump in and ask some stupid questions? This thread has been read close to 4,000 times and seems to be of great interest.

1) What is a progressive control?
2) Are you guys setting them up at home?
3) If it is at home, what's the driving force?

Sorry for my ignorance.

Hey......there are NO stupid questions here.................Can not learn unless you ask.   A progressive display is a jackpot that Gets bigger with every coin in............so the more it is played......the bigger the jackpot. The displays can be small digital on the glass like on my IGT's or it can be an external or internal big displays, which is what we are talking about. I have 6 IGT's in my home office (see the pictures a few pages back) and I am going to set them up in a linked (every coin in from all 6 adds to the central mega jackpot......first one who hits it takes all!) configuration.
Note Picture....progressive is on top...........gets larger with every coin in.
Tim

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« Reply #277 on: April 10, 2006, 05:27:52 PM »   

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Quote from: Cactusjack on April 10, 2006, 05:11:20 PM
Quote from: diecaster on April 10, 2006, 04:46:49 PM
Hello,

Can I jump in and ask some stupid questions? This thread has been read close to 4,000 times and seems to be of great interest.

1) What is a progressive control?
2) Are you guys setting them up at home?
3) If it is at home, what's the driving force?

Sorry for my ignorance.

1) A progressive Controller is the device which gathers the coin in information from multiple games and advances a "progressive" Jackpot count display (often refereed to as a Meter) to be either displayed on a large over head sign, on an In-Machine Display (also called a meter) or both.

2) YES they are!

3) Total Insanity, boredom, trying to out-do the Jone's, bad genes........  Just something else to do once you own a couple of Slot machines.

CJ
Ditto on the "total insanity"......................actually they use a driving board, in this case a Mikohn CHAMII+, that gathers coin in info and sends it to the display...AKA...a Meter.   Which is what I should have on my brain showing how many bucks I have spent on this total insanity of mine. I think the people that have sold me all this stuff actually are the jackpot winners!     Tim
PS: Now thats what I need..........a crane machine filled with "Slotness Elmo's"...to quote Jay.
 
 

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« Reply #284 on: April 11, 2006, 04:29:29 AM »   

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Quote from: cessnac182golf on April 10, 2006, 05:02:12 PM
The Supreme manual has it doing all kinds of things, running in place of a CHAMII. My board has machine in and out, con2 in and out and display (can drive 4, just like a CHAMII+).

The Supreme is a display.  A Supreme can not function as a stand alone like a CHAMII+.  It needs a controller to fucntion as a meter.  Reread the manual

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« Reply #285 on: April 11, 2006, 04:16:12 PM »   

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Thats what I get for skipping through it.    The controller does the work. I did miss read it. The supreme in each machine is being used like a chamII. But that means that each machine has a CHAMII also? Boy.........if you did it like they have in the typical set up picture you would have as much invested in the displays as you do the machine!  Ouch! Thanks....Tim.

PS:  HELP..............I have all kinds of demo graphic files on CD that came with the supreme. How do I get them to load?  There are several PSP's also on the CD but when I use them they say that there is a communication problem, but the old PSP works fine but will only send jackpot info to the supreme.    Thanks!

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« Reply #286 on: April 11, 2006, 04:26:26 PM »   

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Quote from: captainhappy on April 10, 2006, 10:45:34 PM
Tim,

What are the measurements of your big sign? Looks good lit up! Yours must be bigger than mine?   

And to answer what you were discussing earlier, mine is supposed to be out of a "Big Bertha!" I will be in the same boat as you!   
Display is supposed to be 1x2, 30" long and 4" tall.
My board is a 1 X 3, apx 4" high without the frame and close to 4' long....1/3 longer than your big Bertha. So it seems like we both have standalone CON2's. I wonder if Joey has had a chance to look at the modification pictures. Well................I picked up one of those cold touch soldering irons.....so that puts me at 4. Might as well use them.....Gulp!...............Hey April...............got any more of these con2's just in case I fry this thing?   

Thanks!   Tim

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« Reply #287 on: April 11, 2006, 04:47:29 PM »   

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Quote from: cessnac182golf on April 11, 2006, 04:16:12 PM
Thats what I get for skipping through it.    The controller does the work. I did miss read it. The supreme in each machine is being used like a chamII. But that means that each machine has a CHAMII also? Boy.........if you did it like they have in the typical set up picture you would have as much invested in the displays as you do the machine!  Ouch! Thanks....Tim.

PS:  HELP..............I have all kinds of demo graphic files on CD that came with the supreme. How do I get them to load?  There are several PSP's also on the CD but when I use them they say that there is a communication problem, but the old PSP works fine but will only send jackpot info to the supreme.    Thanks!

Are you using the same cable that you use with a CHAMII+?  Is it jumpered from pins 1 & 5?  If so, have you tried a straight thru cable not jumpered?  Not sure if the Supreme uses the same cable as the CHAMII+.

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« Reply #292 on: April 11, 2006, 07:56:23 PM »   

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Quote from: cessnac182golf on April 11, 2006, 04:16:12 PM
Thats what I get for skipping through it.    The controller does the work. I did miss read it. The supreme in each machine is being used like a chamII. But that means that each machine has a CHAMII also? Boy.........if you did it like they have in the typical set up picture you would have as much invested in the displays as you do the machine!  Ouch! Thanks....Tim.

PS:  HELP..............I have all kinds of demo graphic files on CD that came with the supreme. How do I get them to load?  There are several PSP's also on the CD but when I use them they say that there is a communication problem, but the old PSP works fine but will only send jackpot info to the supreme.    Thanks!

Are you using the same cable that you use with a CHAMII+?  Is it jumpered from pins 1 & 5?  If so, have you tried a straight thru cable not jumpered?  Not sure if the Supreme uses the same cable as the CHAMII+.
The connector for the cable shows (in the supreme manual) the 1 and 5 pin to ground, so I figured that I would use the same cable. I have not tried the std cable, but I will try it. I think I just might be having a serial port problem. The "old" on the CD appears to be identical to the one I downloaded from NLG and have been using on the CHAMII+'s.. But when I use the old directly from the CD program, it has a communication problem, so it just might be a config problem. Theres a bunch of PSP's on this disk, a download, upload,.......etc. Next time I get to play with it I will write down all the names.
Oh well.....................one of these years...........Thanks!   Tim